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General EV Infrastructure News

Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:49 pm

This topic exists to post links to and discuss EV charging and related infrastructure articles, which don't fit into one of the specific network topics.

GCR:
EV Freedom Act proposed to Congress would create national charging network- and jobs
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/11 ... k-and-jobs

While the current Presidential administration remains hostile to nearly any effort to reduce carbon emissions, two members of Congress have introduced a bill to expand electric-car charging infrastructure.

Called the Electric Vehicle Freedom Act, the bill calls for the construction of a network of fast-charging stations along major highways within five years. It was jointly unveiled by Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), and Rep. Andy Levin (D-MI). Levin is based in Warren, Michigan, home of the General Motors Technical Center, the automaker's research and development hub.

In addition to encouraging greater use of electric cars, the Electric Vehicle Freedom Act is intended to provide economic stimulation. Construction contracts will include "robust Buy America and prevailing wage requirements," according to a press release from Levin's office, with the aim of creating good-paying jobs.

The bill also calls for stations to be usable by all electric cars regardless of charging standard, and to "keep up with new technology."

But it's unclear if this legislation will address the needs of urban residents, who tend to live in apartments and condominiums and thus have fewer places to charge.

It's also unlikely Democrats will be able to muster any Republican support to get the bill passed, however. In the meantime, the national charging network is steadily expanding without direct Congressional aid. . . . [mentions Tesla, EA etc.]

Even General Motors—long reticent to invest in charging infrastructure—is getting in on the act.

In 2019 May, GM announced a deal with construction giant Bechtel to build thousands of charging stations across the United States, both along interstates and in urban areas. GM hasn't disclosed many specifics on the project, but the automaker has several new electric models in development that would benefit from expanded infrastructure.

The bill's obviously going nowhere given the current makeup of Congress.



ABG:
Shell To Double Number Of Fast Charging Points In Germany
https://insideevs.com/news/398119/shell ... s-germany/


It not only wants to add more fast chargers, but also hydrogen fueling stations too

Shell has now doubled its initial announced plan to build 100 fast charging stations for electric vehicles in Germany. The new plan is to add 200 such stations, as well as increase the number of hydrogen filling stations in the country from the 80 it has promised thus far.

The EV fast chargers will be positioned in existing Shell filling stations, mainly in the north of Germany, around Hamburg and Berlin. These ultra-fast chargers will have an output of 175 kW, and they will be installed by a Hamburg-based company called Adler Smart Solutions.

This is just part of Shell’s claimed commitment to shift some of its attention towards “new energies,” an initiative it’s investing up to $3-billion per year into. . . .

Shell isn’t the only oil company that has been investing in EV-related infrastructure, although others have been a bit more cautious. BP invested $5-million into FreeWire, a manufacturer of electric vehicle charging solutions, and is looking to buy up EV charging networks in Europe, while Chevron invested in ChargePoint and Total followed in Shell’s footsteps by announcing plans to build 300 charging stations on the Old Continent.
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Re: General EV Infrastructure News

Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:32 am

Anything that starts out "the government should start"... the answer is no.

If you want it, tell your state government to do it.

Plus doesn't tesla already have a cross country network of chargers that covers most of the nation?

I didn't buy an EV to drive cross country.
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Re: General EV Infrastructure News

Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:25 am

Oilpan4 wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:32 am
Anything that starts out "the government should start"... the answer is no.
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Re: General EV Infrastructure News

Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:46 pm

This is catering to another special interest group.

Not protecting the population.

Plus if you really want to drive cross country in an electric for some reason, get a tesla. The car, the charger and the infrastructure exist today in most places.
The government giving some money to tesla to fill in some of the super charger gaps would be a much better option than starting a federal department of rapid charging.
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Re: General EV Infrastructure News

Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:40 pm

Oilpan4 wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:32 am
Anything that starts out "the government should start"... the answer is no.

If you want it, tell your state government to do it.

Plus doesn't tesla already have a cross country network of chargers that covers most of the nation?

I didn't buy an EV to drive cross country.
States cannot print money (that is, do deficit-funded stimulus/infrastructure investments). The federal government can and it should.

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Re: General EV Infrastructure News

Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:26 pm

roussir wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:40 pm
Oilpan4 wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:32 am
Anything that starts out "the government should start"... the answer is no.

If you want it, tell your state government to do it.

Plus doesn't tesla already have a cross country network of chargers that covers most of the nation?

I didn't buy an EV to drive cross country.
States cannot print money (that is, do deficit-funded stimulus/infrastructure investments). The federal government can and it should.
Yeah it sucks they have to actually ballance a budget.
It's not stimulus or infrastructure, it's money to give free shit to a special interest group.
New Mexico has something like printing money, a billion dollar surplus largely due to oil and gas royalties paid directly to the state.
When you have oil and gas money rolling in you don't have to do stupid stuff like print money. When you play stupid games you win stupid things.
A 1 time grant could put chargers on the interstate where major highways meet the interstate and we would be all set. But no they dont.
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Re: General EV Infrastructure News

Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:14 am

This is the kind of stuff I think of when the government tries to provide some service.
https://wjla.com/news/local/metro-38-mi ... xFwV5AuQ7w

They will take something that seems too simple to screw up and turn it into a scandle.
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Re: General EV Infrastructure News

Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:25 am

Oilpan4 wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:14 am
This is the kind of stuff I think of when the government tries to provide some service.
https://wjla.com/news/local/metro-38-mi ... xFwV5AuQ7w

They will take something that seems too simple to screw up and turn it into a scandle.
Even spellcheck fails.
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Re: General EV Infrastructure News

Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:54 am

WetEV wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:25 am
Oilpan4 wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:14 am
This is the kind of stuff I think of when the government tries to provide some service.
https://wjla.com/news/local/metro-38-mi ... xFwV5AuQ7w

They will take something that seems too simple to screw up and turn it into a scandle.
Even spellcheck fails.
I'm glad the only point you have to argue is my spelling.
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Re: General EV Infrastructure News

Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:19 am

Oilpan4 wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:54 am
I'm glad the only point you have to argue is my spelling.
Would be nice if that was true.
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