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Re: Electrify America's DCFC Stations Favor CCS Charging Standard

Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:26 pm

Just saw a new charging station being installed at The local Walmart. 4 150KW CCS charge stations and 1 level 2 station. No CHAdeMO outlets!
The brand was Electrify America (edit update to correct brand.)
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Re: Electrify America's DCFC Stations Favor CCS Charging Standard

Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:19 pm

Likewise, the two most recent DC "fast chargers" installed in Albuquerque, NM are Chargepoint CCS only.
It is also true that ALL the Nissan dealerships in the population centers of New Mexico have taken down their DC fast charging, if not all charging services.

I wonder what these events portend ?
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Re: Electrify America's DCFC Stations Favor CCS Charging Standard

Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:56 pm

SageBrush wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:19 pm
Likewise, the two most recent DC "fast chargers" installed in Albuquerque, NM are Chargepoint CCS only.
It is also true that ALL the Nissan dealerships in the population centers of New Mexico have taken down their DC fast charging, if not all charging services.

I wonder what these events portend ?
Got a plugshare url?
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Re: Electrify America's DCFC Stations Favor CCS Charging Standard

Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:45 pm

Ccs is still not prime time in the U.K.

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Re: Electrify America's DCFC Stations Favor CCS Charging Standard

Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:18 pm

johnlocke wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:26 pm
Just saw a new charging station being installed at The local Walmart. 4 150KW CCS charge stations and 1 level 2 station. No CHAdeMO outlets!
The brand was Electrify America (edit update to correct brand.)
EA always has one Chademo cable, shared with a CCS cable on a charge station. That's what the web page for EA shows, and Plugshare shows.

https://charge.electrifyamerica.com/evo ... te-charger

(Example near your location)
https://www.plugshare.com/location/193087
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Re: Electrify America's DCFC Stations Favor CCS Charging Standard

Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:53 pm

WetEV wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:18 pm
johnlocke wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:26 pm
Just saw a new charging station being installed at The local Walmart. 4 150KW CCS charge stations and 1 level 2 station. No CHAdeMO outlets!
The brand was Electrify America (edit update to correct brand.)
EA always has one Chademo cable, shared with a CCS cable on a charge station. That's what the web page for EA shows, and Plugshare shows.

https://charge.electrifyamerica.com/evo ... te-charger

(Example near your location)
https://www.plugshare.com/location/193087

Indeed. In fact, I believe they would be in violation of the consent decree if they didn't provide that CHAdeMO outlet.
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Re: Electrify America's DCFC Stations Favor CCS Charging Standard

Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:48 pm

GRA wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:53 pm
WetEV wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:18 pm
johnlocke wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:26 pm
Just saw a new charging station being installed at The local Walmart. 4 150KW CCS charge stations and 1 level 2 station. No CHAdeMO outlets!
The brand was Electrify America (edit update to correct brand.)
EA always has one Chademo cable, shared with a CCS cable on a charge station. That's what the web page for EA shows, and Plugshare shows.

https://charge.electrifyamerica.com/evo ... te-charger

(Example near your location)
https://www.plugshare.com/location/193087

Indeed. In fact, I believe they would be in violation of the consent decree if they didn't provide that CHAdeMO outlet.
I went back and looked again just to make sure. Five parking spaces. There are 2 kiosks with 2 cables each. All 4 cables are marked as "CCS 150KW". There is a level 2 single cable kiosk as well. Unless they are planning to put more kiosks in on the other side ( there is parking there but I don't see any pads or wiring there), no Chademo plugs at all. It is disappointing not to see at least one Chademo plug. The Walmart across town has both CCS and Chademo plugs but it was installed 18 months ago by Evgo.
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Re: Electrify America's DCFC Stations Favor CCS Charging Standard

Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:04 am

WetEV wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:56 pm
SageBrush wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:19 pm
Likewise, the two most recent DC "fast chargers" installed in Albuquerque, NM are Chargepoint CCS only.
I wonder what these events portend ?
Got a plugshare url?
Without Plugshare url, I'd say FUD.
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Re: Electrify America's DCFC Stations Favor CCS Charging Standard

Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:34 pm

johnlocke wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:48 pm
GRA wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:53 pm
WetEV wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:18 pm


EA always has one Chademo cable, shared with a CCS cable on a charge station. That's what the web page for EA shows, and Plugshare shows.

https://charge.electrifyamerica.com/evo ... te-charger

(Example near your location)
https://www.plugshare.com/location/193087

Indeed. In fact, I believe they would be in violation of the consent decree if they didn't provide that CHAdeMO outlet.
I went back and looked again just to make sure. Five parking spaces. There are 2 kiosks with 2 cables each. All 4 cables are marked as "CCS 150KW". There is a level 2 single cable kiosk as well. Unless they are planning to put more kiosks in on the other side ( there is parking there but I don't see any pads or wiring there), no Chademo plugs at all. It is disappointing not to see at least one Chademo plug. The Walmart across town has both CCS and Chademo plugs but it was installed 18 months ago by Evgo.

If that's the final configuration, that would be a first. If this is the Walmart on Dennery road, there aren't any photos posted on Plugshare yet. One possibility is that the combined unit may be located some distance away from the CCS-only ones. I was very surprised to see this was the case at the Tracy site, under construction when i visited it on 10/23. The site you're describing sounds like an urban site as is Tracy: 2 CCS/1CCS-Chademo/1 L2. The dual-standard unit was located separately, at least 30 yards away from the others, for no reason that I could figure.
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Re: Electrify America's DCFC Stations Favor CCS Charging Standard

Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:12 pm

GRA wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:34 pm
johnlocke wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:48 pm
GRA wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:53 pm



Indeed. In fact, I believe they would be in violation of the consent decree if they didn't provide that CHAdeMO outlet.
I went back and looked again just to make sure. Five parking spaces. There are 2 kiosks with 2 cables each. All 4 cables are marked as "CCS 150KW". There is a level 2 single cable kiosk as well. Unless they are planning to put more kiosks in on the other side ( there is parking there but I don't see any pads or wiring there), no Chademo plugs at all. It is disappointing not to see at least one Chademo plug. The Walmart across town has both CCS and Chademo plugs but it was installed 18 months ago by Evgo.

If that's the final configuration, that would be a first. If this is the Walmart on Dennery road, there aren't any photos posted on Plugshare yet. One possibility is that the combined unit may be located some distance away from the CCS-only ones. I was very surprised to see this was the case at the Tracy site, under construction when i visited it on 10/23. The site you're describing sounds like an urban site as is Tracy: 2 CCS/1CCS-Chademo/1 L2. The dual-standard unit was located separately, at least 30 yards away from the others, for no reason that I could figure.
It's the Walmart on Murphy Canyon off the I-15 at Aero Drive. There don't appear to be any other chargers nearby. I haven't checked any other locations locally where there are Walmarts.
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