smkettner wrote:This is all very interesting. There have been many comments on new EVSEs to check if they are UL compliant... will the conversion meet UL specs?
smkettner wrote:This is all very interesting. There have been many comments on new EVSEs to check if they are UL compliant... will the conversion meet UL specs?
Thank you for pointing that out! Seems drees's estimation of around 75% of "normal" L2 charge seems about right.garygid wrote:1. The 2011 LEAF's max charging current draw appears to be just shy of 16 amps. Thus about 3800 watts (not just 3300 watts) when using 240v source.
Spies wrote:Thank you for pointing that out! Seems drees's estimation of around 75% of "normal" L2 charge seems about right.garygid wrote:1. The 2011 LEAF's max charging current draw appears to be just shy of 16 amps. Thus about 3800 watts (not just 3300 watts) when using 240v source.
garygid wrote:This device is UL "listed" for 120v use. Once modified in any substantial way, like running 240v through it, the UL "listing" no longer covers it.
However, the unmodified unit could be defective and still have a UL Listing. The modified version could be "quite safe" and just not have a "Listing" because it has not been submitted (substantial cost and delay).
Sometimes I think when I just look at something I void any and all certifications it may or may not have had...EVDRIVER wrote:garygid wrote:This device is UL "listed" for 120v use. Once modified in any substantial way, like running 240v through it, the UL "listing" no longer covers it.
However, the unmodified unit could be defective and still have a UL Listing. The modified version could be "quite safe" and just not have a "Listing" because it has not been submitted (substantial cost and delay).
Technically, once the case is open the UL listing is void. Same for a basic repair on a TV. Gary's comments are correct.
\\We are speaking in technicalities here but if you repair one part on a TV it would need to be tested again technically. Opening a "sealed" case can be a tech violation, perhaps even changing a lamp shade on a lamp. You get the picture.garygid wrote:Many UL Listed items have to be opened for cleaning, filter changing, etc.
So, I did not think that "just opening" any case voids that product's listing.
Perhaps cases marked as "No User-Serviceable Parts Inside" puts a case in a different category?
Many modifications, even small, would cause the Listing on the "stock" item to no longer apply to the item, especially if they in any way impact the high-voltage (over about 25 volts?) parts of the equipment.
However, proper (authorized by the OEM?) service, repair, or upgrade, using properly rated replcement parts, should not make the item "unlisted", I would think. Am I wrong?