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Re: EVSE options for 2013 Leaf

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:30 pm
by sorphin
EVDRIVER wrote:
sorphin wrote:
evnow wrote:Want to make a comprehensive list here.

Pls post options you know of / use here.

1. EVSE upgrade

Upgrade the EVSE that comes with Leaf.

Max Power : 5kW (?)
Upgrade Cost : $287
New : $1,027

I notice he raised his prices.. (Used to be $239 for the upgrade)..
That was the 12A upgrade not the 16 or 20A, the prices did not change.
Well apparently he only offers the 'newer' upgrade then, because the website only shows $287 now.

Re: EVSE options for 2013 Leaf

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:38 pm
by rumpole
What about the Aerovironment, GE, Siemens, etc?

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_ ... words=evse" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: EVSE options for 2013 Leaf

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:16 pm
by Redjr
rumpole wrote:What about the Aerovironment, GE, Siemens, etc?

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_ ... words=evse" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
My eyes/ears are perked...so this one would charge the 2013 at a full rate, as fast as the car will provide/allow?

And the Clipper Creek would charge the 2012 at full charge, but not the 2013?

Sorry for being dense here, I'm looking at another lease, a 2013, and need to make a decision on an EVSE at some point. I have an evseupgrade.com presently (love it), but would like the idea of a permanant installation, plus full power charging for the 2013.

Thanks for any help that you can give me.

Re: EVSE options for 2013 Leaf

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:18 am
by apvbguy
Redjr wrote:
rumpole wrote:he 2013?

Sorry for being dense here, I'm looking at another lease, a 2013, and need to make a decision on an EVSE at some point. I have an evseupgrade.com presently (love it), but would like the idea of a permanant installation, plus full power charging for the 2013.

Thanks for any help that you can give me.
if you have something that works well, is well priced and that you love why would you be looking to replace it? I would stick with your evse upgraded equipment

Re: EVSE options for 2013 Leaf

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:13 am
by Redjr
{quote} If you have something that works well, is well priced and that you love why would you be looking to replace it? I would stick with your evse upgraded equipment[/quote]

At the risk if hijacking....

Phil is a great guy, God bless him for offering this upgrade at a reasonable price, I am more than happy with his upgraded cord on my 2012. But...

I am going to be leasing a second Leaf, this one for my S/O, and to get Level 2 capabilities at her house may be expensive. As she spends time at my house, as well as works in my town, my thought is getting a more permanant, and higher output EVSE installed in my shop for a few reasons.

1.) It's an inexpensive and simple wiring job, the 10-2 (or 8-2) AGW run would/could only be a couple feet from my breaker box. Materials (and labor) would be minimal.

2.) She would charge at level I at her house, but if she needed to, she could drive her Leaf down to VLBW in the evening, still charge enough overnight to be able to get to work. Then, because I am (basically) retired, I could snatch her car from work, and charge it quickly on my TOU rates, for half (or less) the cost that she could at her house, and return it to her. I dont anticipate this scenerio to happen often, but it will, I know her, her children, and the amount of errands that she does at night.

3.) A third charging option would be helpful in my charging needs/wants. I could leave my upgraded Level II charging cable at another (already wired Level II) location where I spend 3 days a week, for about 4 hours, when my home is at peak TOU.

4.) There aren't any (that I'm aware of) Level III charging stations in the state of WI, so like others on the forum, we don't have the option to quick charge away from home.

5.)Phil's upgrade is 287 plus shipping (twice), that puts me at $330ish, and an addititional charging station is either $600 (Clipper) or $850 (Siemens). His upgrade won't benefit her at her house without an expensive electrical upgrade, but either of the other two would benefit both of us. The advantages seem to warrant the cost, at least to me, or at least some consideration.

So in this situation, I was asking, if the Siemens would enable the 2013 to utilize its full charging capabilities, as to where the Clipper may not?

Edit: One more piece of the pie is, If I run into situation 2 (and I will), I only have 3 hours of TOU off peak hours in the morning that the car will be available to me to charge, so quicker is better, in this case. Of course, how much am I willing to pay for this quick(er) charging option.

Sorry for the novel, sometimes, it's all I know how to do. :roll:

Re: EVSE options for 2013 Leaf

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:13 am
by EJensen
evnow wrote: 1. EVSE upgrade

Upgrade the EVSE that comes with Leaf.

Max Power : 5kW (?)
To address your question mark, I can confirm that I am drawing 4.8 kW (20A @ 240VAC, both measured) with the EVSE Upgrade unit.

Re: EVSE options for 2013 Leaf

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:52 am
by KillaWhat
I ordered a 2013.

I have an Aeronvironment EVSE at one location that I'm 90% sure will have no problem delivering the full 6.6 Kw.

However, I also have a Blink, under warranty, that I'm 90% sure will not.

I just got off the phone with Blink, and they said :

"They have never had this come up before :roll: , and they have no plans to upgrade any Blink units for the 2013 cars"

Anyone with better info. a better person to call, a case to invoke .... I'm all ears .

Re: EVSE options for 2013 Leaf

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 2:01 pm
by planet4ever
KillaWhat wrote:I ordered a 2013. I have an Aeronvironment EVSE at one location that I'm 90% sure will have no problem delivering the full 6.6 Kw. However, I also have a Blink, under warranty, that I'm 90% sure will not.
HUH?? Go to Settings on your Blink and select Device Info. Doesn't it say Maximum Current 30A? The 2013 on-board charger pulls 27.5A. (240 volts times 27.5 amps = 6600 watts.)

No worries!

Ray

Re: EVSE options for 2013 Leaf

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 3:34 pm
by davewill
planet4ever wrote:
KillaWhat wrote:I ordered a 2013. I have an Aeronvironment EVSE at one location that I'm 90% sure will have no problem delivering the full 6.6 Kw. However, I also have a Blink, under warranty, that I'm 90% sure will not.
HUH?? Go to Settings on your Blink and select Device Info. Doesn't it say Maximum Current 30A? The 2013 on-board charger pulls 27.5A. (240 volts times 27.5 amps = 6600 watts.)

No worries!
Yes. the issue with the Blink isn't whether it will supply enough current, it definitely will. The issue is whether it will do so without burning up the plug and outlet on the car. Call back and ask for a REPAIR, not an upgrade. Tell them you have no confidence that your Blink will charge the car without causing a FIRE. Whether they fix it or not, the first time you use it with the new car, monitor the temperature where it plugs into the car. If it gets hot, cease using it, and file another repair request.

Re: EVSE options for 2013 Leaf

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 6:13 pm
by evnow
Talked to Blink/Ecotality today. According to them, the 30 amp problem comes up only with RAV4 & Fit. Their "solution" is to set the max current draw to 16 amps. They have never had any problems reported with 2013 Leafs - not sure how many people are using the old Blink with the new Leaf. I'll post this question in a new thread.