Re: Drive Across the USA with a LEAF and Plant a Tree every 250 Miles!
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:41 am
Thanks for that update and clarification.
The forum for all aspects of the Nissan Leaf
TomT wrote:Yeah, it is about the most nonevent event ever... I had pretty much totally forgotten about it... Clearly he needs someone who understands marketing...
cwerdna wrote:Too bad he didn't take feedback about more frequent and better status updates. I'd asked that he at least tweet his current odometer mileage, current city and next planned city right after he initiates a charging session, at least on long sessions where he has to L2.
Thanks for getting that information about car and sharing it with us. Those numbers are impressive at ~50k miles.Computerizer wrote:That Leaf Spy screenshot is from my phone -- my wife and I met him at the West Coast Electric Highway charging station in Bellingham, WA, yesterday. I bought him lunch and we talked for a couple hours. His OBD-II dongle was broken so he hadn't been able to use Leaf Spy his entire trip! A friend of ours in Bellevue, WA had an extra OBD-II dongle, however, so he went down and met him to get hooked up, so to speak.
I wasn't too surprised to see it at 96%. Taking long trips generally increases reported SOH, and he hasn't exposed it to heat for long periods of time. And he's sort of taking long trips...
Wow. I have offered suggestions since you'd run out of juice once early on (that I know of) and you've had numerous cases where you had cellular signal issues, so why not use a method of navigation that doesn't depend on it to begin with? I have 2 Garmin GPS portable navigation devices, an old handheld Magellan GPS unit and nav systems in both my cars. They all provide location and navigation (well, sorta navigation on the Magellan handheld) in the absence of cellular signal.NegativeCarbon wrote:I've read through the comments here and I find them fascinating. That some of the most prominent Leafers in existence could be so clueless about what I'm trying to do and the difficulties inherent in it is pretty mind-boggling.
The only thing I've been able to deduce from this thread is that the majority of you are wasting a bunch of time that I don't even have the luxury of wasting. Cwerdna, you in particular disappoint me. From the start I've listened to and evaluated your suggestions--at one point taking you seriously enough to buy an atlas. What's it doing for the $17 I could have spent on a meal or lodging? Taking up space and adding a bit of weight is what. And now I see, "if he had taken my [brilliant] suggestions..." lol!
Thru what method? Some from me were thru comments on your blog. And, some later came thru your other channels that I found you were using.NegativeCarbon wrote: The point of the project I won't even bother to explain, because it is self-evident. If you wanted to be constructive, why not take the obvious step of contacting me directly instead of badmouthing me on what you probably (but errantly) believe is the source and destination for all things Leaf--this forum?
Did you do that? Did you ask us to do that? If that's what we knew you needed/wanted, sure, a bunch of us could've contacted them. Not sure if they'd assign anyone. How many unpaid interns would take this on and that you'd trust to understand all the issues and give you proper/good info? After all, garbage in --> garbage out.NegativeCarbon wrote: Why not contact Nissan and see if you could convince them to assign an unpaid intern to help with the gigantic task of coordinating this trip?
We didn't know you wanted reposts.NegativeCarbon wrote: why doesn't ONE of you--aside from Sal Cameli, who is a very busy person himself--offer something tangible like reposts
Nissan runs TV ads all the time here in the Bay Area featuring the Leaf, esp. w/the '16 w/107 mile EPA range rating (which they emphasize). They show up to auto shows w/the Leaf. They were at a Cupertino Drive Electric event earlier this year and previous years, besides being sponsors (https://driveelectricweek.org/event.php?eventid=342). I'm sure they were at others.NegativeCarbon wrote: "He should just do [THIS AND THIS]." lol. Yep. And instead of giving me a hard time about what *I* shoild be doing better, you should all be spending your energies harping at Nissan--since last I checked that entire corporation has barely done more to publicize the Leaf than I have, and certainly less to educate the dealerships on how to take care of their DCFCs than I have. They're cowtowing to people who think range is a factor while I've spent 16 weeks proving that infrastructure is the real issue.
Carlos Ghosn wrote:PEOPLE SAY, YOU KNOW, "HOW ABOUT THE GUY WHO'S MAKING"--
YOU KNOW, "DRIVING VERY LONG RANGE?"
WE DON'T CARE.
WE ARE NOT ADDRESSING THE CAR FOR THESE PEOPLE.
Not sure what you're looking for. I've offered suggestions and pointed you to locations of certain known good charging spots.NegativeCarbon wrote: Why not do *SOMETHING* that is actually constructive, rather than pretend constructive--like hassling me on a forum it's obvious I pay scant attention to is?
There's a disconnect between what you envisioned and have in your head, including your wants/asks vs. what others have interpreted or can know w/o the ability to read your mind.NegativeCarbon wrote: The net net here is that I appreciate your comments on this forum just as much as you appreciate what I've been trying to do. That is, essentially not at all.
Is the trip complete?NegativeCarbon wrote:I've read through the comments here and I find them fascinating. That some of the most prominent Leafers in existence could be so clueless about what I'm trying to do and the difficulties inherent in it is pretty mind-boggling.
Brian:NegativeCarbon wrote:The half-processing is astonishing, right down to: "I thought the whole point was to plant trees."
So when you don’t post on the blog, and your Facebook posts focus primarily on the US capitals and other sites you visited and say next to nothing about tree planting and then you basically stop doing it, I think a little criticism from the people who funded you might be justified. I’m sure the trip was very expensive. I’m sure you are tired. But taking shots at supporters is probably not a well thought through strategy on your part.Every dollar pledged to this project will help reduce carbon pollution. Every dollar will be spent toward planting good-quality, hardy, long-lived, climate-appropriate trees.
There will be no money spent for sightseeing (it’s not about the destinations, it’s about the journey.)
There will be no money spent for accommodations (just a tent, a sleeping bag, and a whole lot of stars.)
There will be no money spent for advertising (but I’ll need you to talk about it.)
...just tell one person then follow the blog here: Negative Carbon roadtrip
I'll chronicle the daily victories of the trip—as well as the inevitable setbacks. This is your shotgun ticket to emission-free driving without the range anxiety of a long uphill climb in the wilderness with no outlet plugs in sight.
With you lashing out at me, I will not help. I was originally planning on contributing to your venture, since I recognize it's costly for you. I guess I won't now.NegativeCarbon wrote:Look cwerdna and Bob, you're continuing NOT to help. I've answered your email Bob, which easily could have been left an email, but it essentially amounts to a weak justification/substitute for why YOU didn't do things differently.
It does matter because the range of the Leaf since its initial design until the 2015 model year hasn't changed much. It finally went up with the '16 SV and SL to 107 miles from 84 and those just started arriving at dealers.NegativeCarbon wrote: Cwerdna quotes Ghosn out of a movie from what, 2011? Is that even relevant? Does it matter? I don't think so. I don't care if he said that TODAY. He's CEO of Nissan and if he says it he's deliberately misleading or out to lunch/
The '11 to '15 Leaf achieves at least 100 miles on the LA4 cycle but this isn't a good number to tell people w/no EV experience, IMHO.RegGuheert wrote: - Everyone working on the LEAF within Nissan ALWAYS quotes LA4 cycle results when they discuss vehicle range. It is not just marketing and sales doing this, but everyone. Their entire culture seems to be built around this concept that the LA4 range of the vehicles is THE range of the vehicles. Most (all?) of the members of the advisory board found this somewhat disturbing. My personal feeling is that it does not bode well for us to get any changes in how they communicate the capabilities of the car outside of Nissan, but we'll see. I think this needs to be a point for further discussion with them going forward. Would anyone else like to propose a different range for them to use in discussions? Perhaps the EPA five-cycle range test result?
Which is "this account"? I had no idea you even HAD an account on MNL until TODAY, when you made your first post that I'm aware of. Your post count now shows as 2, even there though was apparently a post in the for sale/want to buy area that didn't count (somehow) and I didn't know about.NegativeCarbon wrote: You don't know how to contact me directly? Lol try the email associated with this account, or try asking here, if that fails. (I posted my telephone number and got two calls in 112 days from it.)
I have a day job that keeps me very busy every weekday and sometimes on weekends. I was also on a vacation in Japan for 2 weeks which I didn't want to spend writing and responding to posts. I also have other things going on in my life. I did follow your journey, esp. when I learned of the more frequently updated locations.NegativeCarbon wrote: You want second guessing, cwerdna? You've had a derisive, contrarian, know-it-all tone from the get go as far as I can figure out, and the funniest part about it is that you yourself have convinced everyone here that you dont have the foggiest idea of what is going on with the project. If you were mildly curious, you've spent a whole hell of a lot of effort *NOT* showing it. You're lobbing tomatoes from the middle of a crowd.
Given that on Sept 23, I only saw infrequent updates on your blog and only knew about 3 places where I might find updates, this is why at http://negativecarbonroadtrip.evchargeh ... 9021656803 I saidNegativeCarbon wrote: My reporting has been lax, is your summary. "He didn't take my suggestions for more frequent and better updates" is patently false. I did what I could. I did the best a constantly-moving, well-nigh impossible to find a place and time to sit down for fifteen minutes, almost completely lacking coordination assistance TEAM OF ONE person could do in 112 days and 22,000 miles.
And, in some post somewhere, I added that you should only do so once charging has commenced as to not burn valuable charging and/or rest time.cwerdna September 23, 2015 at 12:28 AM
Just checking in to make sure you're still ok. It looks like your last post was Sept 18th...
cwerdna September 23, 2015 at 3:13 AM
Since it doesn't seem like you bought a beacon, would be cool if you just tweeted at the beginning of all/most charging stop (esp. long ones) w/info like city, state, odometer reading and the likely next city/area.
I didn't know your number! I didn't know until you posted it today!NegativeCarbon wrote: Your "constructive criticisms" have come without a whole lot of depth of thought, cwerdna. PERIOD. You've got all the time in the world to type jeering comments from your armchair quarterback position but not even the decency to give me a call. It's disgraceful. You want to appear clever, but I'd take kind over clever any day of the week. A pint of the former versus a gallon of the latter if you please.