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Gen II End of Lease Options?

Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:24 pm

My three year lease is coming to an end. I just found out today, speaking with a not-very-great NMAC Rep, that I can request - next month - a 3 month extension until the Ariya's release date. In my case that's August 1st. Has anyone else looked into any end of lease offers, discounts, etc? I'm hoping I can do better than 3 months and no perks.
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Re: Gen II End of Lease Options?

Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:32 pm

Unless Ariya belly flops, I doubt it'll be very cheap to lease or buy, out of the gate.

And, if it's affected by the chip shortages and fab problems (e.g. fire at Renesas), supply might be tight too. Off the top of my head, I don't know if the Samsung and NXP fab problems in TX affect automotive.

My wild guess is that Nissan will put more of their energy on this towards Europe and CARB emission states, at first...

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Re: Gen II End of Lease Options?

Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:35 pm

I will consider the Ariya, but that isn't necessarily my goal. If it's delayed then I get my lease extended further. I'm also looking into leasing a cheap Bolt or a Leaf S...
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Re: Gen II End of Lease Options?

Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:41 pm

Used Bolts are real cheap now due to the recall, if you can drive one off the lot (mainly non-GM dealers). Will be interesting to see the prices once the final remedy is out esp. given that some people have gotten good buyback/trade to newer Bolt offers.

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Re: Gen II End of Lease Options?

Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:00 pm

With my housemate now leasing (and I bet she'll keep) a loaded SV+, whatever I get will just be the second car, and I don't expect to driving more than a few more years, so a cheap lease makes more sense, unless they start selling used Bolts for $10k, anyway...
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Re: Gen II End of Lease Options?

Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:23 pm

So, I ended up going with a zero down (1st payment, actually) $276 a month 4 year lease on a Brilliant Silver 2021 SV40 with Tech and Protection packages. I managed to leverage some equity out of the 2018 SL I'll be turning in*, and used that equity to get the 4 year payments lowered to be the same as the 3 year lease. Now I'll have an extra year to not deal with all this crap. I spent this evening getting the SL ready to turn in*, removing seat covers that didn't want to go on OR come off, and cleaning the car out, then loading in the OEM wheels and tires. I'm sad about all this, although I won't miss the leather upholstery. I may miss the white/grey interior. I'm hoping very much that I won't miss the Bose stereo. Since rain is now forecast for the rest of the week, I don't expect to drive the car again until I go to the dealership on Friday. <sigh>



* Technically, the dealership is buying the car from me, and paying off NMAC.
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Re: Gen II End of Lease Options?

Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:19 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:23 pm
So, I ended up going with a zero down (1st payment, actually) $276 a month 4 year lease on a Brilliant Silver 2021 SV40 with Tech and Protection packages. I managed to leverage some equity out of the 2018 SL I'll be turning in*, and used that equity to get the 4 year payments lowered to be the same as the 3 year lease. Now I'll have an extra year to not deal with all this crap. I spent this evening getting the SL ready to turn in*, removing seat covers that didn't want to go on OR come off, and cleaning the car out, then loading in the OEM wheels and tires. I'm sad about all this, although I won't miss the leather upholstery. I may miss the white/grey interior. I'm hoping very much that I won't miss the Bose stereo. Since rain is now forecast for the rest of the week, I don't expect to drive the car again until I go to the dealership on Friday. <sigh>



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Are you going from a 40 kWh to 40 kWh on the battery 2018 vs 2021?
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Re: Gen II End of Lease Options?

Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:16 pm

Yup. I've never had range anxiety with the 40kwh pack, and I prefer the way the Leafs with the 40 handle and accelerate. We have an SV+ for longer trips.
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Re: Gen II End of Lease Options?

Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:20 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 9:16 pm
Yup. I've never had range anxiety with the 40kwh pack, and I prefer the way the Leaf with the 40 handle and accelerate. We have an SV+ for longer trips.
I hear ya, never had range anxiety with my 24 kWh 2013, my wife on the other hand freaks out when her Leaf range gets below 30 and it's only 1 more mile to the destination. My eyes roll around in my head like crazy! :roll:
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Re: Gen II End of Lease Options?

Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:04 pm

My housemate once drove my 2013 SV to work and back, in Winter. I set the climate control to a nice low but not too low setting, to give her about a 30% cushion. She turned it off completely after leaving the house, returned with 35% left, and complained about range anxiety. She kept that line up for years: "I just don't think that a BEV is suited to this climate." Then, when her PIP got sick, she started driving my car for trips outside of town. I steered her to an SV+ with a 62kwh pack to be safe, but she stopped having range anxiety after just a couple of trips in my 40kwh SL. People say that 300 miles of range is the magic number to alleviate range anxiety, but I think that all that is required is twice as much range as you need - in her case, about 130 miles.
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