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If you receive your Leaf in December 2010 are you going to Lease or Purchase? In California with all rebates the purchase price is a little over 20K. Then you would get your rebates back by April 2011
sjfotos said:I would be very surprised if they accepted payments in the Fall. It would be an accounting transaction that doesn't gain them much (they are not THAT cash poor) and it would make decisions about leasing that much more problematic. It would be hard to start paying a lease on an physical asset that is not on a US landed basis.
In short, I think payment and delivery will be at the same time.
sjfotos said:Hi evnow,
I agree that such a contract could be constructed, I just think it will not be worth the time to do so for Nissan. They end up with additional cash, presuming some payments, but a current liability that needs to be tracked and which does nothing for the quarterly or yearly results. It is just a pain in the neck for all concerned However, you may very well be right and they will start it all up in the fall.
evnow said:Interesting. In WA we have different parameters to consider.
Buy :
December '10 : $33,125 ($32,780 MSRP + $345 Delivery* ). Sales Tax Exemption.
April '11 : -$7,500 rebate
Lease :
December '10 : $1,999. Sales Tax Exemption.
Jan '11 - Nov '13 : $349 / month + nearly 10% sales tax. (exemption expires in 2010)
December '13 : Buy at ? (residual amount) or pay disposession fee of ?
* : I used lease figures to calculate this (33,720 - 32,780 - 595).
leaffan said:Again, the $7500 is a TAX CREDIT, not a rebate. Not everyone will get the full credit in April if they decide to buy. But if you lease, they're going to give you the full credit.
Randy said:I made a general assumption that they have to do something in August/September to get buyers on the hook. Whether they'll collect more money or get a signed contract, I'm not sure. But somehow you have to commit because chargers are going to get installed in garages, etc. So you have to somehow show them you're going to buy the car? I'd love to learn more...
mitch672 said:Randy said:I made a general assumption that they have to do something in August/September to get buyers on the hook. Whether they'll collect more money or get a signed contract, I'm not sure. But somehow you have to commit because chargers are going to get installed in garages, etc. So you have to somehow show them you're going to buy the car? I'd love to learn more...
The "charger" (it's not really a charger, just protection equipment and interface), is being installed by a third party company, and will work for any newly designed EV or PHEV, so you will be paying this third party company (likely aerovironment)... if you don't buy the Leaf, you have the EVSE (Electric Vehicle Service Equipment, which is what it really is), and can use it on any future PHEV/EV you buy...
http://www.avinc.com/plugin
mitch672 said:maybe, but there is no doubt some people who apply for the EVSE equipment, get it installed, and either move by the time they take delivery, or perhaps have a change of heart, or finances and not be able to buy it, they probably have that factored in as well... It's probably assumed most will follow through, the lucky participants in the EV Project will be able to tell use what the contracts/agreements say in due time.
well I will change my mind and buy.Amp Electric Vehicles will warrant the batteries, drive motors, and conversion components for 8 years or 100,000 miles, whichever comes first
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