DougWantsALeaf
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Leaf Number: 407811
Location: Chicago North Side

Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:34 am

Many on this board find the Bolt less comfortable to drive, and the smaller boot space (seats up) reduces some of the Utility.

Very much agree that the bolt has better batteries. As more data comes out, they appear to be doing as well or better than Tesla batteries. GM should get much better press about how well they did on their first time out with a full EV in that space. I am sure the slower DC charging rate helps a little bit.

On some of the model 3 chat groups, there is an (anecdotal) whine appearing about some of the early degradation of 5-10% many owners are facing in the first 2 years. I don't know what is real vs. perceived vs. just GOM differences, but the noise level is growing a bit.
2019 S Plus (97.98% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.84% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

danrjones
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Delivery Date: 17 Jun 2019
Location: Ridgecrest, CA

Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:59 am

I know my closest dealer, as of earlier this week, still had 3 2019 SV plus's sitting on there lot.

In my area in CA you have 4 rebates and credits:

Fed tax credit, CA rebate, SCE rebate, Local Air district Rebate

Those add up to 14k+

The three at the dealer are priced at around "asking" 35k. So before any negotiation you would walk out at 21k, not including tax title and tags.

Realistically though I'm betting you could talk them down to as low as 30k. The math then would be 30k * 1.09 (Tax, etc) - 14k
=18.7k out the door (rough math)

That's not bad! My 2018 SV was 15.5k out the door last may.
2018 Leaf SV Pearl White with Tech and All Weather, Purchased New on 5/3/19

DougWantsALeaf
Posts: 1967
Joined: Fri May 10, 2013 8:21 pm
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Location: Chicago North Side

Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:58 pm

Wow, wish I could have that type of pricing here in IL.
2019 S Plus (97.98% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.84% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

cwerdna
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Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:31 pm
Delivery Date: 28 Jul 2013
Location: SF Bay Area, CA

Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:11 pm

danrjones wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:59 am
I know my closest dealer, as of earlier this week, still had 3 2019 SV plus's sitting on there lot.

In my area in CA you have 4 rebates and credits:

Fed tax credit, CA rebate, SCE rebate, Local Air district Rebate

Those add up to 14k+
In my area of CA, for me, I'd only be eligible for Federal tax credit ($7500) and PG&E clean fuel rebate ($800 at https://www.pge.com/en_US/residential/s ... icles.page). I make way too much $ to qualify for the $2000 CA CVRP (https://cleanvehiclerebate.org/eng/eligible-vehicles) and there's no darn way we'd have any local air district incentive or rebate. I guess our air quality would really need to tank for any chance of the latter.

'19 Bolt Premier
'13 Leaf SV w/premium (owned)
'13 Leaf SV w/QC + LED & premium (lease over)

Please don't PM me with Leaf questions. Just post in the topic that seems most appropriate.

NonSequitur
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Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:56 am

FWIW, the Nissan rebate on 2020 is now $4000, up from $3000 in June/July.

Wonder how high this rebate gets each year - anyone know the max, and the month it happens?

2019 rebates disappeared off the page, reflecting almost no 2019s around, but dealer applied same $4k on a quote.

DougWantsALeaf
Posts: 1967
Joined: Fri May 10, 2013 8:21 pm
Delivery Date: 18 May 2013
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Location: Chicago North Side

Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:40 am

they would have been better off keeping the same price point (29,900) and discounting less.
2019 S Plus (97.98% SOH) & 2019 SV Plus (94.84% SOH) Both Silver
2013 Leaf SV sold 2019 with 11 bars
100 Mile Club Member (Number 87)
Max Miles on 13 Leaf: 120 miles
Max Miles on 19 SV+: 242 Highway miles @ 4.5 miles/kWh

SageBrush
Posts: 5149
Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:28 am
Delivery Date: 13 Feb 2017
Location: NM

Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:36 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:34 am
As more data comes out, they appear to be doing as well or better than Tesla batteries.
Too bad you do not have anything other than a few anecdotes to back up your assertion.
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/18: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/18: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
09/20: 54.3 Ahr; 38k miles
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2018 Tesla Model 3 LR, Delivered 6/2018

act0fgod
Posts: 4
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:12 pm
Delivery Date: 09 Aug 2020

Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:25 pm

danrjones wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:59 am
I know my closest dealer, as of earlier this week, still had 3 2019 SV plus's sitting on there lot.

In my area in CA you have 4 rebates and credits:

Fed tax credit, CA rebate, SCE rebate, Local Air district Rebate

Those add up to 14k+

The three at the dealer are priced at around "asking" 35k. So before any negotiation you would walk out at 21k, not including tax title and tags.

Realistically though I'm betting you could talk them down to as low as 30k. The math then would be 30k * 1.09 (Tax, etc) - 14k
=18.7k out the door (rough math)

That's not bad! My 2018 SV was 15.5k out the door last may.
I just purchased a SL+ and a number of dealerships had internet pricing after rebates at $24-$28. When I contacted most of these dealerships to get information on the specific rebates they either included the federal rebate already, wouldn't provide the information or let me know that I wouldn't qualify for all of them.

I went to my local dealership who listed $24k for the 2019 SL+ and when I got there was told out the door the price would be $35k.

I ended up buying from a dealer that was nearly 2 hours away but they sent me a signed quote. When I arrived all the paperwork was ready and I signed everything within 15 min.

SageBrush
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Location: NM

Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Sun Aug 09, 2020 7:57 am

act0fgod wrote:
Sat Aug 08, 2020 10:25 pm
I ended up buying from a dealer that was nearly 2 hours away but they sent me a signed quote. When I arrived all the paperwork was ready and I signed everything within 15 min.
What did you buy, and what was the OTD cost before and after tax credits ?

Good Luck with your car !
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/18: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/18: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
09/20: 54.3 Ahr; 38k miles
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2018 Tesla Model 3 LR, Delivered 6/2018

SageBrush
Posts: 5149
Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:28 am
Delivery Date: 13 Feb 2017
Location: NM

Re: Leaf Price / Discount discussion thread

Sun Aug 09, 2020 8:01 am

I don't expect to buy another LEAF but if I was so inclined I would wait for CCS LEAFs to hit the market and then look for a cheap 40 kWh CHAdeMO for local driving.
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/18: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/18: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
09/20: 54.3 Ahr; 38k miles
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2018 Tesla Model 3 LR, Delivered 6/2018

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