SageBrush
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Re: US used Leaf market discussion

Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:50 am

^^ $5k to swap was cheap.

The LEAF can be good value if it meets your usage profile over time. Our LEAF is used as a city car. We paid $7k for it 5 years ago come December, and it still appears to have years of life left. It's also nice to have cheap car insurance, and of course great to have all the other perks that go along with EV ownership.
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought Jan 2017 from N. Cal
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/18: 58 Ahr @28k miles. 10/21: 53.4 Ahr @ 40k miles
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2018 Tesla Model 3 LR, Delivered 6/2018. Sold 11/2021, awaiting Tesla Model Y

cwerdna
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Location: SF Bay Area, CA

Re: US used Leaf market discussion

Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:58 pm

The used car dealer I bought my former '13 used Leaf from (he buys cars at Manheim auctions) suddenly sent me a list w/an "EV sale" tomorrow. It had over 45 '18+ Leafs!

I'm busy with work so I don't have time to ask him more questions right now... Oddly, I see like about a dozen '20 SV Plus or SL Plus in there with under 5K miles. Weird. Maybe due to COVID WFH?

Since I still don't have a buyback offer with numbers in hand on Bolt, I'm not prepared to risk spending $ and being stuck with an extra car. I hope this is a sign that more used Leafs are coming and the timing can line up.

'19 Bolt Premier
'13 Leaf SV w/premium (former)
'13 Leaf SV w/QC + LED & premium (lease over)

Please don't PM me with Leaf questions. Just post in the topic that seems most appropriate.

webeleafowners
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Location: Okanagan Valley British Columbia

Re: US used Leaf market discussion

Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:35 pm

OMG 😳. Send them to BC. We are so short of inventory up here. People are selling one year old Teslas for more than they paid from them. Used leafs have also gone up. Its nuts.
2020 Model 3 Tesla. AWD with FSD. Deep metallic blue. Our daily driver.
2016 Nissan Leaf SV 30KWh Culis Red. Sold. Was my daily driver. Loved that car.

cwerdna
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Re: US used Leaf market discussion

Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:10 am

The used car dealer guy didn't go to the auction so he wasn't able to tell me who was there bidding but sent me a list of closing prices. Holy cow!

I skipped over the '18 and 19 SL non-Plus as there's no longer a non-Plus SL for '22. But, in looking the SV and SL, Plus and non-Plus, the closing prices are nuts. Due to the '22 model year MSRP drop, that makes comparisons whacky.

ALL of the '20 SL Plus closed at a price higher than '22 MSRP minus $7500 US Federal tax credit. WTF?!?!? New '22 SL Plus would have MSRP of $37,400 + $975 dest charge - $750 CA clean fuel reward - $7500 = $30,125. Yet, all the used '20 SL Plus were above that.

The '18 and '19 SV non-Pluses don't have great prices either. I don't know how well equipped they are but if they have no packages, they're also more than '22 MSRP + dest charge - $750 CA clean fuel reward - $7500 Fed tax credit. '20 SV non-Plus has a crazy high price.

'22 non-Plus SV should be $28,800 + $975 - $750 CA CFR - $7500 = $21,525.

'19 and '20 SV Plus are also mostly overpriced but also unclear how well-equipped they are. Assuming all these prices are accurate, it seems like there's a lot of overbidding going on. I wonder how many are being exported. Prices are so high that they'd only make sense for someone buying new but can't claim the full $7500 Federal tax credit.

MSRP figures come from PDF on right side of https://usa.nissannews.com/en-US/releas ... -press-kit. I used $750 for https://cleanfuelreward.com/ since it will go down to that on 11/2/21.

'19 Bolt Premier
'13 Leaf SV w/premium (former)
'13 Leaf SV w/QC + LED & premium (lease over)

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LeftieBiker
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Re: US used Leaf market discussion

Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:32 am

Maybe word is also spreading about the '21+ Leaf being detuned a bit.
Brilliant Silver 2021 Leaf SV40 W/ Pro Pilot & Protection
2009 Vectrix VX-1 W/18 Leaf modules, & 2 lithium E-bicycles.
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joeriv
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Location: Fairfield County CT

Re: US used Leaf market discussion

Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:14 am

Just to see what my 17 Leaf S (14,000 miles) would bring, I went to Edmunds and CarMax would give me $15,100!!! Talk about insane!
2017 Leaf S with QC, JUN mfg date

Triggerhappy007
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Delivery Date: 01 Jan 2019

Re: US used Leaf market discussion

Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:40 pm

joeriv wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:14 am
Just to see what my 17 Leaf S (14,000 miles) would bring, I went to Edmunds and CarMax would give me $15,100!!! Talk about insane!
You should also check Carvana and Vroom. Sometimes they give you more than Carmax, but it depends on the area.
2022 Leaf Plus SV White/Black

joeriv
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Location: Fairfield County CT

Re: US used Leaf market discussion

Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:12 am

Carvana $14,232
Vroom $10,609
2017 Leaf S with QC, JUN mfg date

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