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Re: PG&E Shutting off power.

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:03 pm
by cwerdna
Sigh...

I've been checking https://psps.ss.pge.com/ recently including last night. It had said for my address (in the South Bay) no impact. Now it doesn't. :( It now says this for me. :(
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October 24, 2019: Due to gusty winds and dry conditions, combined with a heightened fire risk, PG&E may need to turn off power for public safety at this address in the next 36 to 48 hours. As we continue to monitor conditions, please prepare for outages that could last longer than 48 hours. By providing your specific address information in this tool, you are getting a more accurate view than PSPS area map. Get the latest information on this event at pge.com/pspsupdates
Maybe the only good (?) thing is that if it lasts awhile, I won't even be in town. I get on a plane to Japan on Sunday morning.

Re: PG&E Shutting off power.

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:37 am
by LTLFTcomposite
cwerdna wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:03 pm
I won't even be in town. I get on a plane to Japan on Sunday morning.
So you're the one causing all this climate change :-D

Here in Florida after a hurricane the people who have their power out for only three days are referred to as "the lucky ones". A little perspective can be helpful; living without electricity isn't as nice as with it, but you'll be amazed the extent to which life goes on. A month from now everyone will have moved on and forgotten all about it.

Re: PG&E Shutting off power.

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:32 am
by DaveinOlyWA
Gone all day for a new station opening in Portland but arrived home to a dark house. Power restored at 3 am. Sucks and found that knowing the power is going out is much nicer than being surprised by it coming home.

As it stands, it was less convenient than a normal Saturday would have been but hardly enjoyable.

Re: PG&E Shutting off power.

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:21 am
by Oilpan4
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Re: PG&E Shutting off power.

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:46 am
by cwerdna
LTLFTcomposite wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:37 am
cwerdna wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 8:03 pm
I won't even be in town. I get on a plane to Japan on Sunday morning.
So you're the one causing all this climate change :-D

Here in Florida after a hurricane the people who have their power out for only three days are referred to as "the lucky ones". A little perspective can be helpful; living without electricity isn't as nice as with it, but you'll be amazed the extent to which life goes on. A month from now everyone will have moved on and forgotten all about it.
LOL on the first part. So, power went out Saturday at ~8:20 pm. Unfortunately, Comcrap didn't stay up long this time. It went out before the 30 minute mark. (My cable modem and access point are on UPSes.) During the last PSPS, Comcrap stayed up for over 45 minutes.

Yeah, I recall a co-worker (originally from Florida) talking about hurricanes and the power outages.

Unfortunately, I remember see a headline (e.g. https://www.latimes.com/california/stor ... r-shutoffs) about this being a thing for 10 years. :( Ugh! I grew up in CA but was out of the state for about 9 years. We never had this sort of thing except for Enron rolling blackout scam when I was residing in another state. They certainly didn't shut off power for these "public safety" or wildfire risk.

The weirdest part about the grid is that my entire neighborhood was out. I went to get something to eat, and surprisingly every single traffic light on an expressway to my destination, including one not far from home was working. I went a few miles and at that point, all the houses to the left and right had power. Where I went to eat, there was no outage at all (a busy commercial area).

I'm waiting at the airport now w/a 2 hour delayed flight. It sounds like the all clear for my area is Monday at 8 am but it sounds like it's for the weather event. They still need to inspect/finish inspections of the power lines before they turn power back on. So, it could be that day or another day. And, if there's damage, that needs to be fixed.

Re: PG&E Shutting off power.

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:16 am
by WetEV
Oilpan4 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:21 am
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You are better off in an electric car. Driving a gasoline car in heavy, stop and go traffic uses far more gasoline per mile than usual. The reverse is true for an electric. Got 60 miles of range? Santa Rosa to SF is 56 miles, and with heavy traffic will probably get better than 60 miles.
Power is out, so are many gas pumps. And evacuation isn't the time to charge or fill up the gas tank.

Re: PG&E Shutting off power.

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:21 am
by LTLFTcomposite
Several years back there was a big storm threatening Houston and tons of people were trying to evacuate and running out of gas because they were stuck in traffic. The only people making it through we're the ones in Priuses.

Re: PG&E Shutting off power.

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:44 pm
by Oilpan4
My wife's Hyundai hybrid could likely run for several days in stop and go traffic running the A/C. When the 2kwh battery gets low it runs the engine about 1 to 2 minutes for every 10 minutes of A/C run time.
I wouldn't want to be stuck in a Houston like evaluation in a leaf.

If the power goes out here and that Hyundai had half a tank of gas it would still go about 300 miles. Then when gasoline is found, or the power comes back on fill back up in 2 or 3 minutes.

While the leaf is on, all accessories off it still draws around 700 watts according to leaf spy it's far from perfectly efficient in stop and go traffic.

Re: PG&E Shutting off power.

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:17 pm
by WetEV
Oilpan4 wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:44 pm
While the leaf is on, all accessories off it still draws around 700 watts according to leaf spy it's far from perfectly efficient in stop and go traffic.
So 40kWh / 700W = 57 hours. About twice as long as a gasoline car will idle.

Or do you mean some old LEAF 2011?

Re: PG&E Shutting off power.

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:43 pm
by coulomb
WetEV wrote:
Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:17 pm
So 40Wh / 700W = 57 hours.
Did you mean 40 kWh?