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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (possible spoilers)

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:19 am
by cwerdna
Heh about MIHC. Well, the main character Juliana Crain isn't that great, IMHO. Ditto for Frank Frink.

Trade minister Tagomi and John Smith are great! Inspector Kido does a good job, as well. The collectibles shopkeeper who caters to the Japanese is another interesting character.

Re: Star Trek: Discovery (possible spoilers)

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:23 am
by cwerdna
LeftieBiker wrote: Not all of the Cylons were robots. Watch Galactica '80 again, if you don't believe me. I actually liked about half the eps of that, and have one left that I never saw.
Hmmm.... well, the explanation I gave was what Apollo told others in a vehicle (to Boxey and others, IIRC), probably in the 1st episode: https://web.archive.org/web/20161124144 ... Star_World.

I believe they were driving around on that casino planet.

Here we go: https://web.archive.org/web/20161115083 ... ons_(TOS).

Some folks here probably think we're nuts w/all thread drift. :) I might talk more about another ST:D ep this weekend.

Re: Star Trek: Discovery (possible spoilers)

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:38 am
by LeftieBiker
This is just drift, not OT, so...

The humans didn't know about the hybrids in the first version of the series, IIRC. One (or two?) was featured in one of the first eps of BSG '80; he/they die in a Cylon ship crash on Earth. (There was also some indication, IIRC, that Lucifer and one or two others might be at least partially biological.) You may argue that this means I'm wrong, but BSG '80, squirm-inducing as it could be, was the same universe, almost all the same characters, same basic plot - and a continuation of the meta plot from the first version. Oh, and produced and largely written by the same guy. ;) Anyway, my original point - and I DID TOO have one - was that the second BSG got much more of the plotting from the first than I had recalled.

Re: Star Trek: Discovery (possible spoilers)

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:17 am
by jlv
LeftieBiker wrote:I wrote "skim" rather than "skip around." Don't worry. I'm talking about scanning forward passed dull scenes, that's all. Heh - at least my OCD only encompasses me. ;)
With The Expanse, what you might think of as a dull scene ends up being important to the narrative a few episodes later. My suggestion is to just watch through them (or rewatch them later on if you must skip them). By the 4th episode the overall pace picks up considerably.

Re: Star Trek: Discovery (possible spoilers)

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:48 pm
by LeftieBiker
I'm good at both skimming parts of scenes (although these streaming TiVo apps are pretty terrible for doing it) and at guessing for context. Seriously, if there is going to be a test on this, I'm going to skip school that day. ;)

Re: Star Trek: Discovery (possible spoilers)

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:11 pm
by cwerdna
'Star Trek: Discovery' Gets Renewed for a Third Season
https://www.etonline.com/star-trek-disc ... son-120595

Re: Star Trek: Discovery (possible spoilers)

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:18 pm
by LeftieBiker
I guess CBS will get my business for two months this year, and then a month next year.

Re: Star Trek: Discovery (possible spoilers)

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:02 am
by cwerdna
Woah! S2:E7 "Light and Shadows" had a Star Trek III reference (besides the ongoing search for Spock) and a TOS reference that relates to Pike. I don't want to spoil it... yet?

Re: Star Trek: Discovery (possible spoilers)

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:06 am
by LeftieBiker
I finished S:1 EP:4 last night. Jeez Louise, it's hard to take what passes for science on a JJA show. Microscopic lifeforms underpinning the universe? Maybe - it was there for the taking in Star Wars, and Abrams never passes up a free...anything. But literally mushroom spores??? My housemate watched the first 10 minutes of the ep, and then politely asked to be excused. I find the series watchable, but between those fat, bombastic Klingons (stolen from "Prometheus," they are essentially Engineers with ridges and warts and issues with syntax) and the skinny, Bombastic Star Fleet officers, it's hard to become attached. I suppose that nice macro-micro seal-like creature is relatively sympathetic...

Re: Star Trek: Discovery (possible spoilers)

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:25 am
by cwerdna
^^^
FWIW, the Paul Stamets in the show is named after a real life Paul Stamets (https://fungi.com/pages/about-us). Was mentioned in one of the early eps of After Trek, which I'd seen all eps of.

They do tone down the tedious Klingon dialogue scenes, eventually.

As for the officers, well.. yeah, at least for awhile on Disco, a bunch of the characters act as though they have a chip on their shoulder. The guy that plays Lorca does a pretty good job. Doug Jones (plays Saru) does a great job in one of the recent eps.

I wish I could find a quote along the lines of "can you imagine what the pitch for the show would be?" Answer included something about a ship being propelled by mushrooms.

The second Harry Mudd episode was quite good.

The show has quite a few twists and there's a good one that begins on S1:E9.