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Re: Does Trump's Election Spell the End for Federal EV Subsidies?

Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:44 pm

WetEV wrote:As for Donald Trump, his position will depend on who he is talking to. I have not a clue what Trump will do. I don't think Trump does as well.
I've long been convinced that the only thing The Donald actually believes in is his own magnificence; everything else is negotiable.
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Re: Does Trump's Election Spell the End for Federal EV Subsidies?

Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:13 pm

GRA wrote:
WetEV wrote:As for Donald Trump, his position will depend on who he is talking to. I have not a clue what Trump will do. I don't think Trump does as well.
I've long been convinced that the only thing The Donald actually believes in is his own magnificence; everything else is negotiable.
To paraphrase Kramer in The Dealership he's taking us to a little place I like to call "we'll see".
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Re: Does Trump's Election Spell the End for Federal EV Subsidies?

Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:55 pm

GRA wrote:Pretty insignificant after almost six years. This year, U.S. sales of PEVs are running around 0.7% nationally, IIRR. I expect a small spike when the Bolt and Prius Prime arrive,

Sales of PEVs were 1.1% in November 2016.

Bolt isn't out yet. Prius Prime is out, but a small player.


https://cleantechnica.com/2016/12/03/us ... car-sales/

Sure, 1.1% is still "pretty insignificant". And I'm sure you will stay the same about 2%, 5% and 10%.
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Re: Does Trump's Election Spell the End for Federal EV Subsidies?

Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:04 pm

WetEV wrote:
GRA wrote:Pretty insignificant after almost six years. This year, U.S. sales of PEVs are running around 0.7% nationally, IIRR. I expect a small spike when the Bolt and Prius Prime arrive,

Sales of PEVs were 1.1% in November 2016.

Bolt isn't out yet. Prius Prime is out, but a small player.


https://cleantechnica.com/2016/12/03/us ... car-sales/

Sure, 1.1% is still "pretty insignificant". And I'm sure you will stay the same about 2%, 5% and 10%.
10% will be significant, as it's approaching mass market acceptance, say 15%. 5% will be significant in the sense that it will exceed the sales % that HEVs have ever achieved in the U.S., ~4% IIRR. Personally, I consider the next semi-significant step for PEVs will be when one nameplate's U.S. annual sales exceed the highest monthly sales of a common ICE, say Civic/Corolla/Camry/Accord/RAV4. Or when all PEVs' U.S. annual sales exceed the U.S. annual sales of any one of those five ICEs. Nov. and YTD, here's how many each of those five have sold ( http://online.wsj.com/mdc/public/page/2 ... autosalesC):

Camry, 28,189 / 355,204
RAV4, 28,116 / 314,925
Accord, 27,182 / 311,352
Toyota Corolla / Matrix, 26,747 / 331,081
Honda Civic, 25,303 / 335,445

There's a ways to go yet, but maybe they'll reach one of those marks next year. I figure the Prius Prime's got the best shot.
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Re: Does Trump's Election Spell the End for Federal EV Subsidies?

Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:59 pm

Well, the fun begins.

The first released draft of the House GOP tax cuts for billionaires has no more tax credit for EVs.

It is not clear that the House GOP can agree on what time to break for lunch.
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Re: Does Trump's Election Spell the End for Federal EV Subsidies?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:28 am

Donald Trump is a completely incompetent leader — we know this. Literally any other president would have done a better job. He couldn't accept that the crisis was real and that his "plan" to spend the year holding fun rallies and smearing his Democratic rival was going to be interrupted by his duties as president. So he lived in denial until the situation was completely out of hand. Other leaders would have listened to experts and pulled together a team that knew how to organize a national response. And no other president would be so witless as to waste precious time and resources with magical thinking about quick miracle cures.

But it's not just him, is it? The U.S. government seems to have lost its capacity to act, and the private sector is so invested in short-term profit-making that it's lost its innovative edge. The result is that the United States of America, formerly the world's leader in science and technology, now only leads the world in gruesome statistics and body counts.
https://www.salon.com/2020/04/27/americ ... ole-world/
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Re: Does Trump's Election Spell the End for Federal EV Subsidies?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:05 am

very bias and you see what you want to see...moving on...since there is nothing to see here. Really, quoting something from a liberal San Fran. tabloid. too funny!

Meanwhile, your beloved Democratic leaders were going forth with a fake impeachment hearing and not worried about anything else but trying to grab their power back. Fake news right along with them.
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Re: Does Trump's Election Spell the End for Federal EV Subsidies?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:32 pm

Learjet wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:05 am
very bias and you see what you want to see...moving on...since there is nothing to see here. Really, quoting something from a liberal San Fran. tabloid. too funny!

Meanwhile, your beloved Democratic leaders were going forth with a fake impeachment hearing and not worried about anything else but trying to grab their power back. Fake news right along with them.
Republican President was in charge, so of course it was ALL the Democratic leaders fault. Completely. Totally. :lol: :roll:

Leadership doesn't pay anymore. Denial of responsibility is what works for Donald Trump. Even when responsible. That must change. Or the USA will fall apart.
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Re: Does Trump's Election Spell the End for Federal EV Subsidies?

Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:36 pm

Who's looking forward to voting for biden?
I'm not, I'll probably stay home, drink and watch the election get called before the mountain time zone polls close.
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Re: Does Trump's Election Spell the End for Federal EV Subsidies?

Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:36 pm

I've been voting in presidential elections since 1980, and I've either been voting for the lesser of two evils or, as California has voted reliably Democratic since 1992, for whichever minor party candidate I liked best. As the state election result was pre-ordained, my vote wasn't going to affect the outcome and was thus free, as California, like most states, gives all our electoral votes to whoever has a plurality of the popular vote.

This year is different - although my vote still won't affect the outcome, I'll vote for Biden, not only to change the government's environmental policies, but also as a way of registering my disgust at having our country represented to the world by an impulsive, petty, vindictive, corrupt, mendacious, bullying narcissist who never met a dictator he couldn't be buddies with, or the leader of a democracy he couldn't make an enemy of.
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