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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:23 pm

The Cruise Origin Story
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At this very moment, we’re running fleets of our third-generation vehicles on the roads of San Francisco, operating a rideshare service that any Cruise employee can use, 24/7. Last year alone, we accumulated nearly a million miles as we autonomously drove nearly every road in San Francisco.

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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:59 pm

So they got their superpowers by being exposed to...San Francisco?
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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:29 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:59 pm
So they got their superpowers by being exposed to...San Francisco?
Take a look at the Medium post at https://mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php? ... um#p576953 and some of the YouTube videos posted by them on their channel along w/the 2018 CA autonomous testing disengagement stats.

I pointed 2 to videos at viewtopic.php?f=12&t=10233&p=561419&hil ... se#p561419.

I've seen Waymo's vans driving in/around Mountain View. I can't tell if they're being driven autonomously or a safety driver since there's no indicator but I've seen them obey traffic lights, make turns, merge onto the highway, etc. Where I've seen them operate is MUCH easier than driving in the city of SF. That said, there are numerous other tough to drive cities in the US and plenty around the world.

Some where horn use is constant (and can convey many meanings), lanes and rules aren't followed and roads are shared with oxen, pedicabs, scooters, etc. might much further out in terms of autonomous driving. Example video I quickly found: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnPiP9PkLAs. I've not been to India but some of my colleagues are from there and some (non-Indians) had to go on business. The latter described the traffic there.
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Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:35 pm

Yes, I can picture a poor autonomous EV just stopped in a traffic circle, shivering with fear.
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Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:39 am

Back to SF, there are some places with really steep hills (e.g. 0:51 into https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjkN0mgDInE), lots of pedestrians, Muni street cars, cable cars and lots of bicyclists besides parked cars and narrow streets. And, as one of the earlier Medium posts mentions, some weird intersections. In Chinatown, there are trucks double and triple-parked unloading.

There was this famous car chase (I hear the route doesn't make sense) w/cars doing jumps starting around 2:38 of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzUtXMNizVo.

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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:54 am

I normally don't read https://thelastdriverlicenseholder.com/ but in skimming it, it is semi-amusing for numerous posts to be spottings of unidentified autonomous test vehicles. Usually, they're identified later.

Too bad I don't live nor work around Mountain View. I'd be seeing a lot more of them up there.
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Waymo expands its autonomous big rig tests to Texas and New Mexico
Its Chrysler Pacifica minivans will also hit the road in those states.
https://www.engadget.com/2020/01/23/way ... ew-mexico/
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GM/Cruise Leaks Show Them Ridiculously Behind Waymo. It's Time For Better, More Public Metrics
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradtemple ... c-metrics/
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I finally read the below.
https://news.yahoo.com/cruise-calls-way ... 16453.html (Cruise calls for a new way to determine commercial readiness of self-driving cars) pointed to the above.
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I just do not see Waymo going main stream international or even full USA. Geo fencing is not small task that Waymo requires.
Waymo and Cruise both currently operate within geo-fenced areas. I'm not sure what your last sentence is supposed to mean.

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Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:22 am

UPS teams up with Waymo to test self-driving delivery vans
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/29/tech/ups ... index.html

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Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:30 am

How are they going to ring your doorbell once, drop the banged-up package on your porch, and run away...?
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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:56 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
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How are they going to ring your doorbell once, drop the banged-up package on your porch, and run away...?
LOL!

They won't be doing that. From the story:
Waymo, the self-driving arm of Google's (GOOG) parent company Alphabet, will use its autonomous Chrysler Pacifica minivans to bring packages from UPS stores in the Phoenix area to a UPS sorting facility in Tempe, Arizona. (It will not be delivering packages to customers' doorsteps.)

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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:53 am

(It will not be delivering packages to customers' doorsteps.)
Not until the delivery 'bots are ready, anyway.
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