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Re: Ipod controls... TORTUROUS!

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 2:03 pm
by EVDRIVER
prberg wrote:I have to agree that the LEAF audio system needs some improvements. I guess part of the problem is that the car is a version 1.0. Although they have other stereo systems in other cars, maybe they started from scratch with the LEAF.

As bad as the ipod controls are, the controls for a generic USB drive are much worse. Hopefully they will listen to us and make the system easier to use. The scrolling down seems pretty painful to me. Would be great if we could jump down to the middle of the alphabet or something like that.

-Peter

I wish the entire 1.0 excuses would go away, car companies have been making vastly superior iphone interfaces (this one sucks) and NAV systems for years, this comes down to Nissan making a cheap or poor choice with a vendor not a first gen EV issue. A simple and basic function like scrolling to an artist on a reasonable collection is a complete joke, even if there were letters on the side or a sliding bar it would be functional. One can fumble searching endlessly for artists or songs while driving but not for directions as that is locked out. It's ok to crash from ipod distraction but not other functions:) Not that music is something one uses often in a car :roll:

Nissan should fire the marketing or product dev person that specified this unit as well as the one that made the interior fabric and eco applique decisions. DId they say "We have a great EV here, what stupid things can we do to make it worse"? "How about a ultra crapy audio and Nav system and some trim treatments from a hot tub"? Perhaps there were serious translation issues.

Re: Ipod controls... TORTUROUS!

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 2:04 pm
by palmermd
RSLion wrote:I heard Steve Jobs bought a Leaf. I'm sure he's crying in frustration while he tries to use his iPod. My suggestion to Nissan is to rip all the center console crap out and put an iPad to control all the ancillary systems.

sounds like the Tesla Model S route.

Re: Ipod controls... TORTUROUS!

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 2:09 pm
by EVDRIVER
palmermd wrote:
RSLion wrote:I heard Steve Jobs bought a Leaf. I'm sure he's crying in frustration while he tries to use his iPod. My suggestion to Nissan is to rip all the center console crap out and put an iPad to control all the ancillary systems.

sounds like the Tesla Model S route.

Or they just could have used a decent vendor.

Re: Ipod controls... TORTUROUS!

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 2:13 pm
by jcesare
RSLion wrote:I heard Steve Jobs bought a Leaf. I'm sure he's crying in frustration while he tries to use his iPod. My suggestion to Nissan is to rip all the center console crap out and put an iPad to control all the ancillary systems.
First they need to elimiate Flash from the CARWINGS website. Totally worthless with the iPad

Re: Ipod controls... TORTUROUS!

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 2:17 pm
by davewill
jcesare wrote:
RSLion wrote:I heard Steve Jobs bought a Leaf. I'm sure he's crying in frustration while he tries to use his iPod. My suggestion to Nissan is to rip all the center console crap out and put an iPad to control all the ancillary systems.
First they need to elimiate Flash from the CARWINGS website. Totally worthless with the iPad
I see that as the iPad being totally worthless with CARWINGS. ;)

Re: Ipod controls... TORTUROUS!

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 2:23 pm
by palmermd
davewill wrote:
jcesare wrote:
RSLion wrote:I heard Steve Jobs bought a Leaf. I'm sure he's crying in frustration while he tries to use his iPod. My suggestion to Nissan is to rip all the center console crap out and put an iPad to control all the ancillary systems.
First they need to elimiate Flash from the CARWINGS website. Totally worthless with the iPad
I see that as the iPad being totally worthless with CARWINGS. ;)

So far, I see carwings as useless.

Re: Ipod controls... TORTUROUS!

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 2:30 pm
by GroundLoop
palmermd wrote:So far, I see carwings as useless.
+1

I would love a simple text web page with all the content that it takes multiple color screens of flash to display:

State of Charge: 72%
Power Connected: 120v AC
Charging: No
Climate Control: ON, 11 minutes remaining
Climate Timer: Off

Really, there's not a lot of information to communicate, or selections to choose from. Instead I have a web page that requires a 1024x768 flash-enabled computer to render.

Re: Ipod controls... TORTUROUS!

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 2:57 pm
by jcesare
GroundLoop wrote:
palmermd wrote:So far, I see carwings as useless.
+1

I would love a simple text web page with all the content that it takes multiple color screens of flash to display:

State of Charge: 72%
Power Connected: 120v AC
Charging: No
Climate Control: ON, 11 minutes remaining
Climate Timer: Off

Really, there's not a lot of information to communicate, or selections to choose from. Instead I have a web page that requires a 1024x768 flash-enabled computer to render.
There's a lot more than that. That's just the owners page. To enter the telemetrics portal you need to click on the bottom of the screen. From there you'll find the route planner, driving history, info feeds, rankings, and ways to configure your in car features, all of which needs flash to run. :roll:

Re: Ipod controls... TORTUROUS!

Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:39 pm
by Bassman
Tried my Iphone 3GS through the USB port today. How do you control the playback (stop, pause, fast forward, etc)? I can't seem to find a playback control menu. It just keeps playing songs down the song list without stopping. Very frustrating. :x

Re: Ipod controls... TORTUROUS!

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:15 pm
by Christopher
To answer some of the questions raised, with an iPod connected via USB you can scan forward or back by holding down the next/previous track buttons on either the unit or the steering wheel. (Much as you would on the iPod itself.) As for pause/stop, I just hit the audio system power button to pause/stop and then hit it again later when I want to continue playing music. Of course you can't navigate the iPod menus while the system is actually off.

Also, I ran the USB cable down under the dash and into the back of the glovebox so that I don't have to fuss with hiding/reconnecting the iPod. It remains out-of-sight and it stops/starts playing automatically right from where I left off when I stop/start the car. This is the same arrangement I've used with all cars I've had since iPod-compatibility first became available.

All that said, I miss seeing track duration/progress and I'd like an option for a better sounding audio system. A nice-to-have would be to show the album artwork on screen as Pioneer units do.