User avatar
mwalsh
Posts: 9753
Joined: Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:10 am
Delivery Date: 05 Jan 2011
Leaf Number: 0213
Location: Garden Grove, CA

Re: 2011 smart fortwo ED

Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:19 pm

AndyH wrote:Check out all the green dots on the map:
http://www.smartusa.com/electricdrive/
Smart Center Cerritos! Thinking of booking a test drive to coincide with the next LEAF meeting at Cerritos Nissan.....I haven't driven the Smart EV yet (though I've driven the awful ICE version).
2011 Blue Ocean SL with 86,000 miles
2015 pack on 12/30/15
Tinted windows
Bosch AGM 12v
Ecopia 422+ tires
L1 EVSE upgrade
FIAMM horns
Superbright LED lighting
2013 sun visors
LED shifter
Heated seats
GT-R map lamp lenses
Altima illuminated door switches

Train
Posts: 405
Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:08 pm

Re: 2011 smart fortwo ED

Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:45 pm

$600/month for a 48 month lease with $2500 down.

For a two seater at that. Wow.

http://www.autotropolis.com/auto-news/s ... wo-ev.html

jkyu99
Posts: 81
Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:06 am
Delivery Date: 23 Jun 2011
Leaf Number: 5139
Location: Claremont, CA

Re: 2011 smart fortwo ED

Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:44 pm

Cute SOC meter. Image

Glenn
Posts: 281
Joined: Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:32 pm
Delivery Date: 02 Jul 2011
Location: Oakland, CA

Re: 2011 smart fortwo ED

Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:10 pm

Train wrote:$600/month for a 48 month lease with $2500 down.

For a two seater at that. Wow.

http://www.autotropolis.com/auto-news/s ... wo-ev.html
And no leather seats! (Probably not even heated :) :) )
Unlike the standard fortwo models that offer leather seats, the fortwo electric drive will only offer cloth seats (in black, red and beige) but will still have a leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift lever.

User avatar
garygid
Gold Member
Posts: 12469
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:10 am
Delivery Date: 29 Mar 2011
Leaf Number: 000855
Location: Laguna Hills, Orange Co, CA

Re: 2011 smart fortwo ED

Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:38 pm

Do all/any of the Smart Dealers have a L2 charging station (or at least a 120 socket)?
See SOC/GID-Meter and CAN-Do Info
2010 Prius
2011 LEAF, 2014 Tesla S85
2018 & 2019 Tesla Model 3
PU: SDG&E
Solar PV: 33 x 225W -> 7 kW max AC
Craigslist: Xm5000Li Electric Motorcycle

User avatar
Skywagon
Posts: 429
Joined: Tue May 18, 2010 5:56 pm
Delivery Date: 08 Jan 2011
Location: Chandler, AZ

Re: 2011 smart fortwo ED

Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:59 am

I stopped by the local Smart dealer yesterday as they showed having an ED on Smart's website. It was parked out front and for the 10 minutes I was looking it over nobody would even bother to give me the time of day (maybe because I was already driving an EV). It includes a green painted Clipper Creek 110/120V portable module, which was unboxed in the trunk as it has been used (no 240V station exists at this dealer).

LEAF meets Smart ED:
Image

Window sticker - note the MSRP ($45,587... explains the high lease price):
Image
Last edited by Skywagon on Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
redLEAF
Posts: 1714
Joined: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:38 pm
Delivery Date: 23 Dec 2011
Location: Chicago, IL

Re: 2011 smart fortwo ED

Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:09 am

I'm surprised that the smart dealer had one not spoken for ... they are only leasing 250 nationwide at $599/mo for 48 months and had heard that the majority were already spoken for (primarily fleet purchases); none to be found between two Chicago area smart dealer's but looks like Milwaukee has them (probably just one). I guess you have to look at this as similar to the MINI E (which ran $850/mo and carried only two people as well due to the batteries taking up the back seats) which was a 'test' for only 450 customers in 3 states (CA, NY and NJ); no defending it but at least it's available now in the U.S. (smart did another test in the UK). Some pundits of the smart say it was always designed to be an EV but took this long to get the tech to work -- if they can get the price down closer to the ICE version I'm sure they would sell, how many is anyone's guess --- of course the smart doesn't have the same popularity of a MINI but looking at the basic cost of entry, $850 versus $599 is a pretty big difference! Will be interesting to see the blog's on the smart ED once more people actually get one -- we'll see if they are as passionate at the MINI E pioneers have been ...


CORRECTION -- the MINI E did start out at $850/mo but later was reduced to $600/mo; I think it was after a year into the program -- the next one I hear will be a BMW 1-series covered elsewhere on this forum.
2018 smart ED Brabus (leased)
Sapphire Blue Metallic
2017 Tesla Model 3 LR RWD; FSD; 19" sport wheels
Red Multi-coat
2015 VW e-Golf LE (traded-in for Model 3)
2012 Nissan LEAF SL (traded-in at 5 yrs; 46K miles)
EVSE: 10/07/11 Schneider EVlink

User avatar
evnow
Moderator
Posts: 11480
Joined: Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:41 am
Delivery Date: 25 Feb 2011
Leaf Number: 303
Location: Seattle, WA

Re: 2011 smart fortwo ED

Mon Feb 28, 2011 12:29 pm

Interesting that Smart ED is 38 kwh/100 miles. That is more than Leaf's 34 kwh/100 miles. So a larger, heavier Leaf is actually more efficient ?
1st Leaf : 2/28/2011 to 5/6/2013
2nd Leaf : 5/4/2013 to 3/21/2017
Volt : 3/25/2017 to 5/25/2018
Model 3 : 5/10/2018 to ?

User avatar
garygid
Gold Member
Posts: 12469
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:10 am
Delivery Date: 29 Mar 2011
Leaf Number: 000855
Location: Laguna Hills, Orange Co, CA

Re: 2011 smart fortwo ED

Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:23 pm

LEAF is 24 (not 34) kWh for 100 "LA4" miles, right?

Is the Smart's kWh number also wrong?
See SOC/GID-Meter and CAN-Do Info
2010 Prius
2011 LEAF, 2014 Tesla S85
2018 & 2019 Tesla Model 3
PU: SDG&E
Solar PV: 33 x 225W -> 7 kW max AC
Craigslist: Xm5000Li Electric Motorcycle

palmermd
Posts: 2628
Joined: Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:19 pm
Delivery Date: 31 Mar 2011
Leaf Number: 1100011011
Location: Hermosa Beach, CA

Re: 2011 smart fortwo ED

Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:42 pm

340 wH / mile (Leaf) versus 390 wH /mile (Smart) not talking about pack capacity.
Michael

Leaf from 31 March 2011 - Traded 18 April 2019 for Tesla Model 3 Unicorn
Driving electric since 1996


Leaf Bar Loss

Return to “Other Electric Cars & Plug-In Hybrids”