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Re: Volvo XC40 EV

Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:03 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:56 pm
The only way to deal with a first gen heater is to preheat while plugged in, before leaving.
Must have been a significant change after that. I know my 2018 heater works great. Of course I'm only "CA Cold". 41F bone chilling degrees this morning! LOL! Though sometimes mid winter we get into low teens but its a "DRY COLD"....


So has anyone checked out the Q4 Etron? Starting at 45k with 280 miles of estimated range doesn't sound TOO bad for the luxury segment and certainly beats the Volvo in both price and range, though I do like Volvo for other reasons. Could be more like 250 miles of range once rated but that still beats the Volvo.
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Re: Volvo XC40 EV

Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:39 am

I feel like most manufacturers are settling in on 250 miles range. Tesla is pushing for more, but as we are seeing in the more mature ev markets, that extra range is much less of a differentiator.
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Re: Volvo XC40 EV

Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:22 am


Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:56 pm
The only way to deal with a first gen heater is to preheat while plugged in, before leaving.

Must have been a significant change after that. I know my 2018 heater works great. Of course I'm only "CA Cold". 41F bone chilling degrees this morning! LOL! Though sometimes mid winter we get into low teens but its a "DRY COLD"....
The 2011 & 2012 Leaf uses a terrible liquid-based heating system that forces you (unless you add a heater OFF switch) to preheat the fluid unless it's really warm outside. Starting in 2013, the resistance heater is direct-to-air, and you have experienced the improvement in heating time.
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Re: Volvo XC40 EV

Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:47 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:22 am

Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:56 pm
The only way to deal with a first gen heater is to preheat while plugged in, before leaving.

Must have been a significant change after that. I know my 2018 heater works great. Of course I'm only "CA Cold". 41F bone chilling degrees this morning! LOL! Though sometimes mid winter we get into low teens but its a "DRY COLD"....
The 2011 & 2012 Leaf uses a terrible liquid-based heating system that forces you (unless you add a heater OFF switch) to preheat the fluid unless it's really warm outside. Starting in 2013, the resistance heater is direct-to-air, and you have experienced the improvement in heating time.
Just to clarify, with the climate control OFF it also doesn't heat the liquid but your correct, turning it ON even with the heat set as low as it can go, it will heat the liquid loop without the switch :)
As you've also pointed out in the past, it's slow to heat as like an ICE heater it needs to heat up the liquid loop and also has losses not seen on post '12 Leaf heaters.
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Re: Volvo XC40 EV

Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:48 pm

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Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:24 pm
Won't the Audi Q4 Etron be in that price range, or even lower? I thought the Q4 Etron was suppose to start around 45k when it goes on sale next year. If that actually happens, I'll have to check it out along with the VW ID4.
The reading I've seen says the Etron will be more expensive. It's also 19 inches longer than the XC40 and would be a very tight fit in my garage. It has lower ground clearance, too, although it has adjustable suspension that allows it to have more. I don't fully trust Audi, either, after the VW EPA mileage scandal.
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Re: Volvo XC40 EV

Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:33 pm

My Volvo is due into port (Savannah, GA) tomorrow afternoon. I don't know how long it will take to get across the country. I can back out at any time prior to taking delivery, but I liked the one I test drove and have no intention of canceling as long as the dealer doesn't try to pull some fast one and tack on extra. I know some dealers have them on the lot and are selling at MSRP.
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Re: Volvo XC40 EV

Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:10 pm

I was mistaken. The ship with my Volvo on it did arrive in port at Savannah as expected, but is now on its way to the Panama Canal. I assume my car is still on it and will make its way to California by ship, not go by car carrier on the highway. Volvo didn't tell me in what port it was be offloaded.
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Re: Volvo XC40 EV

Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:35 pm

Why did you get an xc40 EV over, say, a model y?

I’m close to buying a t8, but only because I have an employee discount, loyalty bonus, and Volvo has a bunch of stuff stacked on s60s right now. I’d prefer an xc40 EV but they are more expensive at this time to lease.

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Re: Volvo XC40 EV

Tue Feb 16, 2021 2:18 pm

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Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:35 pm
Why did you get an xc40 EV over, say, a model y?

I’m close to buying a t8, but only because I have an employee discount, loyalty bonus, and Volvo has a bunch of stuff stacked on s60s right now. I’d prefer an xc40 EV but they are more expensive at this time to lease.
Several reasons. The Model Y is too low and too long, among others. The Model Y and almost all others I considered would be a very tough fit in my short garage. I want a small SUV to get the added height and ground clearance, too. I always swore that I'd never get an SUV, but it's almost impossible to see in traffic, or while backing out of parking or making a right turn while an SUV or pickup on your left blocks the view of oncoming traffic. More than 60% of all passenger vehicles are either SUVs or Pickup trucks. Plus I have a hobby of geocaching and the AWD and ground clearance is good for the light off-roading that requires. The Y has AWD, too, but not the rest. The closest other models I considered were the Subaru Crosstrek PHEV and the Audi e-Tron. I owned a Volvo C70 before the Leaf and loved it, and have confidence in the quality of Volvo products. I don't have confidence Tesla will even be around in 10 years. I think Musk is crazy and books are probably cooked.
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Re: Volvo XC40 EV

Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:13 pm

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Tue Feb 16, 2021 2:18 pm
EatsShootsandLeafs wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:35 pm
Why did you get an xc40 EV over, say, a model y?

I’m close to buying a t8, but only because I have an employee discount, loyalty bonus, and Volvo has a bunch of stuff stacked on s60s right now. I’d prefer an xc40 EV but they are more expensive at this time to lease.
Several reasons. The Model Y is too low and too long, among others. The Model Y and almost all others I considered would be a very tough fit in my short garage. I want a small SUV to get the added height and ground clearance, too. I always swore that I'd never get an SUV, but it's almost impossible to see in traffic, or while backing out of parking or making a right turn while an SUV or pickup on your left blocks the view of oncoming traffic. More than 60% of all passenger vehicles are either SUVs or Pickup trucks. Plus I have a hobby of geocaching and the AWD and ground clearance is good for the light off-roading that requires. The Y has AWD, too, but not the rest. The closest other models I considered were the Subaru Crosstrek PHEV and the Audi e-Tron. I owned a Volvo C70 before the Leaf and loved it, and have confidence in the quality of Volvo products. I don't have confidence Tesla will even be around in 10 years. I think Musk is crazy and books are probably cooked.
I like the XC40 but decided the range is just way too low given the price, which I think is way too high. If the Audi Etron Q4 comes in at a starting price of 45k with 250 miles or more of range, then I'd go Audi.
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