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Re: Volvo XC40 EV

Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:03 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:56 pm
The only way to deal with a first gen heater is to preheat while plugged in, before leaving.
Must have been a significant change after that. I know my 2018 heater works great. Of course I'm only "CA Cold". 41F bone chilling degrees this morning! LOL! Though sometimes mid winter we get into low teens but its a "DRY COLD"....


So has anyone checked out the Q4 Etron? Starting at 45k with 280 miles of estimated range doesn't sound TOO bad for the luxury segment and certainly beats the Volvo in both price and range, though I do like Volvo for other reasons. Could be more like 250 miles of range once rated but that still beats the Volvo.
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Re: Volvo XC40 EV

Wed Oct 28, 2020 8:39 am

I feel like most manufacturers are settling in on 250 miles range. Tesla is pushing for more, but as we are seeing in the more mature ev markets, that extra range is much less of a differentiator.
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Re: Volvo XC40 EV

Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:22 am


Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:56 pm
The only way to deal with a first gen heater is to preheat while plugged in, before leaving.

Must have been a significant change after that. I know my 2018 heater works great. Of course I'm only "CA Cold". 41F bone chilling degrees this morning! LOL! Though sometimes mid winter we get into low teens but its a "DRY COLD"....
The 2011 & 2012 Leaf uses a terrible liquid-based heating system that forces you (unless you add a heater OFF switch) to preheat the fluid unless it's really warm outside. Starting in 2013, the resistance heater is direct-to-air, and you have experienced the improvement in heating time.
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Re: Volvo XC40 EV

Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:47 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:22 am

Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:56 pm
The only way to deal with a first gen heater is to preheat while plugged in, before leaving.

Must have been a significant change after that. I know my 2018 heater works great. Of course I'm only "CA Cold". 41F bone chilling degrees this morning! LOL! Though sometimes mid winter we get into low teens but its a "DRY COLD"....
The 2011 & 2012 Leaf uses a terrible liquid-based heating system that forces you (unless you add a heater OFF switch) to preheat the fluid unless it's really warm outside. Starting in 2013, the resistance heater is direct-to-air, and you have experienced the improvement in heating time.
Just to clarify, with the climate control OFF it also doesn't heat the liquid but your correct, turning it ON even with the heat set as low as it can go, it will heat the liquid loop without the switch :)
As you've also pointed out in the past, it's slow to heat as like an ICE heater it needs to heat up the liquid loop and also has losses not seen on post '12 Leaf heaters.
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Re: Volvo XC40 EV

Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:48 pm

danrjones wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:24 pm
Won't the Audi Q4 Etron be in that price range, or even lower? I thought the Q4 Etron was suppose to start around 45k when it goes on sale next year. If that actually happens, I'll have to check it out along with the VW ID4.
The reading I've seen says the Etron will be more expensive. It's also 19 inches longer than the XC40 and would be a very tight fit in my garage. It has lower ground clearance, too, although it has adjustable suspension that allows it to have more. I don't fully trust Audi, either, after the VW EPA mileage scandal.
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