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Volvo XC40 EV

Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:29 am

About 3 or 4 months ago there was a bunch of news about a Volvo XC40 EV coming this year (or maybe it was for 2020)

Seems to me that would be a nice step up from the Leaf if one could afford it.

But I can't find any new info released more recently.

I often park my leaf right next to a newish XC40 at work and I have to say, it looks very nice.
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Re: Volvo XC40 EV

Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:22 pm

GCR:
2021 Volvo XC40 Recharge electric SUV production begins, US deliveries by January
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/11 ... by-january

. . . Revealed last October, the 2021 Volvo XC40 Recharge final specs and pricing have yet to be confirmed for the U.S.

The Recharge was engineered and developed concurrently with the Polestar 2 by the same Volvo-led engineering teams in Sweden, and with the same designer, Thomas Ingenlath.

Both models have 78-kwh (75-kwh usable) battery packs configured into a ‘T’ under the back seat and drive tunnel, plus front and rear 150-kw motors. Volvo promises a 0-60 mph time of 4.7 seconds for the 402-hp dual-motor vehicle, as well as an expected range of more than 200 miles.

The XC40 Recharge can fast-charge at 150 kw, allowing a charge to 80% in about 40 minutes. At launch, the Android-based, Google-supported navigation system will have the capability to use energy consumption and the battery’s state of charge to suggest DC fast-charging stops along the route, modifying the arrival time based on the anticipated length of the charge stop.

Volvo confirmed that in U.S. spec the XC40 Recharge will come with a heat pump and other cold-weather features that correspond with its offering across the U.S., not just in California emissions states.

Volvo opened U.S. pre-orders for the XC40 Recharge back in January, and it’s reportedly sold out the first year of production based on the number of fully refundable $1,000 pre-orders it’s received. In the absence of exact pricing, Volvo has said the Recharge will cost about $55,000, or roughly $48,000 when factoring in the destination fee and eligibility for the $7,500 EV tax credit. . . .
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Re: Volvo XC40 EV

Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:03 pm

ABG:
2021 Volvo XC40 Recharge gets 208-mile EPA range rating

It's less efficient than the Polestar 2 with the same battery pack and drivetrain
https://www.autoblog.com/2020/10/07/vol ... epa-range/


Nope.
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Re: Volvo XC40 EV

Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:22 pm

It's shaped like a smaller brick on top of a bigger brick, so that should hardly be a surprise.
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Re: Volvo XC40 EV

Wed Oct 21, 2020 12:12 pm

I noted that you can now pre-order and the price has been announced. While both my wife and myself love the size and space and look of the XC40, there is just no way. The EV version starts at $53990 and that's before a few packages & options - like color. And that is only for 250 miles of range, ON the WLPT cycle so maybe 215 miles EPA?

The AUDI Q4 ETRON is going to be priced better and have more range - estimated to start around 45k and ~ 280 miles range.

The XC40 Recharge is a very hard sell.
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Re: Volvo XC40 EV

Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:28 am

Volvo is serious about EV. But not really.

Their T8 trim is prohibitively expensive. This recharge for me would do fine for me (200 mile range is no problem at all--have an ICE for out-of-town stuff)--and I have a volvo I am looking to replace with another soon--but I'm sure it would be exorbitantly expensive--far more after lease than its similarly priced ICE variants.

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Re: Volvo XC40 EV

Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:27 am

I just configured my XC40 Recharge. I put the $1000 deposit down earlier this year. I may not consummate the deal after a test drive, but for now it's the only EV that fills the sweet spot for me combining high ground clearance and seating position, AWD, and small enough to fit in my garage and park in smaller spots where I go frequently, like Rancho San Antonio where parking is always tight. It is expensive, but its competitors are even more so (Jaguar I-Pace, BMWix3,Audi eTron, Tesla, etc.) as well as most being too big. The 208 EPA range doesn't bother me since I've only driven over 100 miles at one time once in the last 5 years and we have an ICE for that anyway.

My 2011 Leaf SL has only 33600 miles on it, but has the original battery (down 3 bars) and its practical freeway+climate control+music range is probably only 40 miles or so. Other than range, the only significant fault with the Leaf is the lack of a decent heater. Ever since the remote heating option disappeared, it's miserable starting up and driving for the first two miles in 30-40 degree weather. I can't even defrost the windshield for several minutes which means starting the car and sitting in the cold or leaving it running on the street while I go back inside. When 2G went away and Nissan devised the new widget to restore that function, I shelled out the money for it, but it never worked reliably and I eventually got my money back. Fortunately here in the Bay Area, winter weather is mild, so this isn't what I'd call a major problem. Still, I'm looking forward to a car with heated seats, a good sound system and all the modern safety and convenience features of a new high-end car.
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Re: Volvo XC40 EV

Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:24 pm

Won't the Audi Q4 Etron be in that price range, or even lower? I thought the Q4 Etron was suppose to start around 45k when it goes on sale next year. If that actually happens, I'll have to check it out along with the VW ID4.
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Re: Volvo XC40 EV

Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:54 pm

Rat wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:27 am
My 2011 Leaf SL has only 33600 miles on it, but has the original battery (down 3 bars) and its practical freeway+climate control+music range is probably only 40 miles or so. Other than range, the only significant fault with the Leaf is the lack of a decent heater. Ever since the remote heating option disappeared, it's miserable starting up and driving for the first two miles in 30-40 degree weather. I can't even defrost the windshield for several minutes which means starting the car and sitting in the cold or leaving it running on the street while I go back inside.
I just realized you're in Silicon Valley. If you finally got a smartphone, DrivetheARC (https://drivethearc.com/) might be useful to you (viewtopic.php?f=26&t=30793) if you want free DC FC juice. Unfortunately, for the Bay Area, it's only a very limited subset of EVgo stations.

I've gotten probably over 400 kWh of free DC FC juice from them.

That's too bad about the slow heater. The hybrid heater in my '13 Leaf heats up quickly. By the time I've backed out of my garage onto the driveway, I have warm air coming from the vents. My Bolt's power pig water heater also isn't slow to heat.
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Re: Volvo XC40 EV

Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:56 pm

The only way to deal with a first gen heater is to preheat while plugged in, before leaving.
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