Baltneu wrote:IYou have to ask yourself with the Model 3 at $35K, why would I buy a Leaf SL?
One good reason is ProPilot. On the Leaf SL it’s a $695 option. On the Model 3 you have to buy it as part of AutoPilot, and that’s a $5k option.
It was $5K. It's now $3K on the SR for Autopilot.
Another reason is Federal Tax Credit. Nissan is still eligible for the full $7500; Tesla’s is now half that. If demand becomes extreme and you can’t take delivery of your new $35k Tesla before July 1, the credit is halved again.
I do hope that Tesla FINALLY releasing the base model will force other manufacturers, particularly GM, to lower their prices.
Yes on all of the above.
One thing that dismays me is perhaps Model 3 will not (ever?) have a metal roof. When you click on the packages, it says "All Interiors Include:
Tinted glass roof with ultraviolet and infrared protection". I didn't want the glass roof due to folks having cracks in them already. Unclear how many are due to defects vs. design flaw vs. just another vulnerable piece of glass to be struck by debris. I wouldn't want it to be a $ pit once out of warranty for that. Also, Model 3's reliability record is questionable, as are Tesla's, in general, esp. once out of warranty.
Enough folks have had problems like https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... ge.131679/
and https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... in.131903/
along stupid design flaws like rain dripping into the trunk when you open it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCv_Ha0oWjE
, Model 3 owner at work told me about this well before this video) helps validate what I've seen about Tesla. Their vehicles always seem like rush jobs.
When at least 3 Model S folks on TMC have been thru 7+ drive units and the Model X continues to be a reliability disaster, one has to wonder what their long-term reliability and durabiity testing looks like vs. other automakers: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... ing.56176/
I really hope this thread can be moved or merged.