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2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:44 am
by SageBrush
I started this table in another thread but I think it has reached a point where I can bring it out to full light. As more information or errors emerge I'll update this OP. Please refrain from quoting the table since I have no way of updating the table in a quote.

Last updated: 3/1/2019
Change log:
1/25: Auto Emergency braking added to 'S' and 'SV' models
3/14: AEB speed differences noted
3/1/19: SR is live ! Packages updated

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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:21 pm
by LeftieBiker
The table is still wrong, in that it uses the un-optioned SV, giving the impression that things like a dual voltage EVSE and Pro Pilot are only available on the SL. In fact you can get everything except leather seat covers and the little solar panel in the SV. You need to use a symbol for "optional" as most consumer and car publications would do. Since you obviously aren't familiar with the option packages, you need to get familiar with them.

Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:07 pm
by wwhitney
LeftieBiker wrote:In fact you can get everything except leather seat covers and the little solar panel in the SV.
So how much is Nissan charging for leather seats and the little solar panel? I.e. what is the MSRP delta between comparable SL and SV configurations?

Cheers, Wayne

Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:16 pm
by LeftieBiker
It is something like $3k, IIRC. You get more things standard on the SL, though, like automatic lights and the dual voltage EVSE. My point was that the SV can be equipped like an SL, except with no leather or solar panel. And you can have a better equipped SV than a base SL.

Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:25 pm
by armmynissanleaf
I think the biggest comparison point is this. Leaf is available now, Model 3 is not (you have to stand in a long line).

True that some Model 3s are already available in the market for sale, but they are very very expensive compared to Leaf.

Therefore, current Leaf is a lot of advantages against Model 3 even if the Leaf gets fewer miles per charge.

Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:38 pm
by alozzy
If these weren't both EVs, nobody would even compare them or consider them in the same market niche. As EVs become more pervasive across all market segments, the LEAF (or it's successor) will be compared to other cars instead, as will the M3. I get that right now, EV buyers will look at both but will be unlikely to do so a couple of years from now when other choices emerge.

Tesla should stick to the luxury EV market, where they can compete and have a leadership position. They are going to face huge competition in the mass produced product lines, as other manufacturers will undercut them on price.

Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:44 pm
by LeftieBiker
I think that the real problem with the M3 is that they tried to build a sedansportscarluxuryminicoupe and they ended up with something that highlights some of the downsides of each style. Spartan interior, harsh ride, mediocre fit and finish - all for better performance and range. It's another near(?) miss like the Bolt. In fact, this topic should be comparing the Bolt as well, because it's more like the M3 than is the Leaf Too.

Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:00 pm
by jonathanfields4ever
All models of the Leaf have automatic emergency braking.

Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:02 pm
by SageBrush
jonathanfields4ever wrote:All models of the Leaf have automatic emergency braking.
Are you sure ? It is listed in the 'SV' tech package

Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:08 pm
by jonathanfields4ever
SageBrush wrote:
jonathanfields4ever wrote:All models of the Leaf have automatic emergency braking.
Are you sure ? It is listed in the 'SV' tech package
Perhaps the American versions don't have it as standard equipment, but it's listed for all trim levels in the Japanese brochure I'm looking at now. From lowest to highest, their levels are S, X, and G. They appear to match up pretty well with those offered in America as far as I can tell. The only differences I can spot are that leather seats are still an option even at the highest level for a Japanese Leaf, while heated front seats are standard across all levels.

Edit: From the Nissan website - "Automatic Emergency Braking (AEB) is standard on model year 2018 Rogue/Rogue Sport, Altima, Murano, LEAF, Pathfinder, Maxima and Sentra vehicles."