SageBrush
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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:36 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote: the reality is the 24 kwh pack simply does not provide the range most want and allow sensible BMS options from the end user.

40 kwh would be great
The reality is that ymmv. I find 40 kWh to be neither here nor there. Too much to be an inexpensive, get around town car; too little to be a general purpose car. My family does very well with out 19ish kWh LEAF and 75ish kWh Tesla Model 3.

My corner of Colorado is getting its first DCFC stations "soon" courtesy of VW settlement money. I don't know if I will ever use them but I'm glad to have one more back-up available if needed. Maybe it was worth paying for that CHadeMo port after all.

I feel sorry for the fellow who used to post here from Gunnison, CO and sold his LEAF when he could not find charging that would let him commute. His highway is on the EA map.
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/2018: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/2018: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
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2018 Tesla Model 3 LR, Delivered 6/2018

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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:49 pm

SageBrush wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote: the reality is the 24 kwh pack simply does not provide the range most want and allow sensible BMS options from the end user.

40 kwh would be great
The reality is that ymmv. I find 40 kWh to be neither here nor there. Too much to be an inexpensive, get around town car; too little to be a general purpose car. My family does very well with out 19ish kWh LEAF and 75ish kWh Tesla Model 3.

My corner of Colorado is getting its first DCFC stations "soon" courtesy of VW settlement money. I don't know if I will ever use them but I'm glad to have one more back-up available if needed. Maybe it was worth paying for that CHadeMo port after all.

I feel sorry for the fellow who used to post here from Gunnison, CO and sold his LEAF when he could not find charging that would let him commute. His highway is on the EA map.
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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:04 am

Hey, this thread is finally relevant!

Congrats to all EV fans. This is a big day. And Elon said he’s going to try to bring the price down even further in just two more years. Good stuff.

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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:46 am

SageBrush wrote:I started this table in another thread but I think it has reached a point where I can bring it out to full light. As more information or errors emerge I'll update this OP. Please refrain from quoting the table since I have no way of updating the table in a quote.

Last updated: 1/25/2018, 20:34 MST
Change log:
1/25: Auto Emergency braking added to 'S' and 'SV' models
3/14: AEB speed differences noted

<snip>
Looks like you should add the $37K with the upgraded interior because there are some checkbox differences.

Little table from SolarExec on gm-volt.com

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Model    US Range       Price Ex Incentive    Comments
SR       220 Miles      $35,000 Standard Interior
SR Plus  240 Miles      $37,000 Upgraded Interior
MR RWD   264 Miles      $40,000 Premium Interior
LR RWD   325 Miles      $43,000 Premium Interior
LR AWD   310 Miles      $47,000 Plus All-Wheel-Drive
Perform. 310 Miles      $58,000 Plus Insanely Quick
Shivetya on gm-volt.com

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Standard Interior Includes:
    Manual seat and steering adjustment
    Cloth seats and base trim
    Basic audio
    Standard maps and navigation
    Center console with storage and 4 USB ports

Partial Premium Interior Includes:
    12-way power adjustable heated front seats
    Premium seat material and trim
    Upgraded audio – immersive sound
    Standard maps & navigation
    LED fog lamps
    Center console with storage, 4 USB ports and docking for 2 smartphones

Premium Interior Includes:
    12-way power adjustable front and rear heated seats
    Premium audio – 14 speakers, 1 subwoofer, 2 amps, and immersive sound
    Satellite-view maps with live traffic visualization and navigation
    In-car internet streaming music & media
    Internet browser
    Location-aware automatic garage door opener
    LED fog lamps
    Center console with storage, 4 USB ports and docking for 2 smartphones

All Interiors Include:
    Tinted glass roof with ultraviolet and infrared protection
    Auto dimming, power folding, heated side mirrors
    Music and media over Bluetooth ®
    Custom driver profiles
Last edited by scottf200 on Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:32 am

Table updated with Model 3 packages including SR specifics.
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/2018: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/2018: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
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2018 Tesla Model 3 LR, Delivered 6/2018

SageBrush
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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:34 am

scottf200 wrote: Looks like you should add ]
Table updated in the opening post. Please delete my old table in your post, thanks.
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/2018: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/2018: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
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2018 Tesla Model 3 LR, Delivered 6/2018

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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:36 am

SageBrush wrote:
scottf200 wrote: Looks like you should add ]
Table updated in the opening post. Please delete my old table in your post, thanks.
Just a note. With the base interior I don’t believe you get any heated seats.
If the “six way seats” are powered seats, the base interior doesn’t have that either.
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SageBrush
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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:47 am

Zythryn wrote:
SageBrush wrote:
scottf200 wrote: Looks like you should add ]
Table updated in the opening post. Please delete my old table in your post, thanks.
Just a note. With the base interior I don’t believe you get any heated seats.
If the “six way seats” are powered seats, the base interior doesn’t have that either.
Thanks, I'll look into it later.
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California
Two years in Colorado, now in NM
03/2018: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/2018: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
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2018 Tesla Model 3 LR, Delivered 6/2018

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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:56 am

Agree with request of adding the standard range plus $37,000 Model 3 to the table as well as the Leaf eplus models which should also be delivered this month.
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