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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:25 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:50 am
Ok, I know I am asking for some potentially firey responses here, but what do the Tesla drivers here think of consuner reports review of full selfdriving? Does this reflect your experience? I only know of propilot and its limited use cases.

https://youtu.be/IQOf_F6hibk
I think CR isn't out-of-line with their criticism, but I just disagree with it. There's no substitute for real world traffic data, and giving owners the option to be guinea pigs seems to be the perfect way to do it. Since autopilot has to be actively engaged, and the driver (via personal driving profiles) knows what he's opted in/out of, there is no additional risk from doing it this way. After all, a speeding/drunk driver is subjecting other drivers to much more involuntary risk than a non-speeding autopilot that occasionally misses stop signs (I'm not trying to be cavalier here).

When I engage autopilot on city streets, I become hyper-vigilant, because I'm actively choosing to add data to the system, not to become another statistic. I have never engaged autopilot on city streets unless it's to test the system. All my city driving is fairly short, and the current iteration of autopilot will disengage when you leave the highway, so there hasn't been a good opportunity to take advantage of autopilot for city driving. But giving the drivers the option to train the system, that's actually a smart move.

So is it worth $8000? Only if you don't want to pay $10,000 later when the robotaxi system goes online. The system is constantly collecting real world traffic data to better train autopilot, and constantly improves because of the amount of data that Tesla has access to. It's just a matter of "when" the system becomes capable enough to be truly FSD.

Can you live with basic autopilot only? Absolutely, basic autopilot is pretty capable as is, so choosing to forgo FSD can also be a good choice.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:46 pm

TIL about https://tech-tesla.weebly.com/ from https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-4978538.

I guess this is what's bound to happen when you have a car popular enough w/geeks and engineers. I've seen this w/Prius, Leaf and Model S. For ones that never achieve critical mass w/that audience, forget about it. I never found anyone who knew much about the Altima Hybrid nor any sort of projects like this.

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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:37 pm

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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:42 pm

^^^
Above points to:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech ... e-app.html but the word HACK seems like clickbait...
Tesla drivers are locked out of their cars after Elon Musk's firm is hit with complete network outage and staff are blocked from processing orders - amid fears of possible HACK

Tesla has been hit by complete network outage starting around 11am ET
Internal systems are down, making it impossible for staff to process orders
On the customer side, some users cannot connect to their car in the app
The US and Europe are experiencing issues with what appears to be the app
The outage follows Tesla's Battery Day that many investors deemed a failure
Elon Musk had promised an innovation to cut prices of electric cars
However, the CEO said it may take another three years before that is possible
Stocks in Tesla Inc fell more than 10 percent Wednesday
While Googling, I found these:
Tesla suffers complete network outage, internal systems and connectivity features down [Update: connectivity returning]
https://electrek.co/2020/09/23/tesla-su ... ures-down/ - they're a known Tesla fanboy site, so I guess there's a decent chance the outage was legit

Tesla experienced an hour-long network outage early Wednesday
https://techcrunch.com/2020/09/23/tesla ... wednesday/

Tesla suffers network outage disabling car owners’ mobile app
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/busin ... 504689001/

I noticed a few threads w/updates from today by Googling for site:teslamotorsclub.com outage and limiting to past 24 hours like the below:
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... 411/page-2
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... 883/page-3
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... nt.207518/
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... 517/page-4

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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:49 pm

I got a news notification on my phone of the alleged hack. I didn't follow it up.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:23 pm

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:37 pm
Is this real or garbage??

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEF ... id=US%3Aen
The network outage happened, but it's been sensationised. I had no problems accessing my car during that time (bluetooth based access, much like when you're out where there's no cell reception) and the keycard works without lte access. it's primarily an issue with initial app logins and processing payments/orders.

supercharging also worked (as far as i've read).

much ado about nothing for a 1 hr. outage.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:35 am

The outage affected Tesla's auth servers, so even people with just Powerwalls were unable to access the status of those systems.

But, the outage was blown out of proportion by the media. Early reports said things like "people can't drive their cars", which is total B.S.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:40 am

Oils4AsphaultOnly wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 9:23 pm
DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 7:37 pm
Is this real or garbage??

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEF ... id=US%3Aen
The network outage happened, but it's been sensationised. I had no problems accessing my car during that time (bluetooth based access, much like when you're out where there's no cell reception) and the keycard works without lte access. it's primarily an issue with initial app logins and processing payments/orders.

supercharging also worked (as far as i've read).

much ado about nothing for a 1 hr. outage.
Yep -- much ado about nothing.

I encountered the outage because why wife was trying to login to the Tesla app and it gave her a black screen instead LOL
I told her to put it aside until today, and now it is fine.
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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:16 pm

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Re: Official Tesla Model 3 thread

Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:58 pm

So if the roof flies off as you're driving it home, does this mean that they're now going to hassle you about returning it? ;)
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