6.6 kw charger on 2013 S model.
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F23 normal charging vs Fast
NOT Missing pin 12 green - interlock K in same in both
pin 25 yellow/black vs brown-yellow QCPTMP1
pin 26 yellow red vs white red QCPTMP1
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thanks
what do I do?
two wires are different colors.
normal speed vs. fast
what does QCPTMP stand for?
pin 25 yellow/black vs brown-yellow QCPTMP1
pin 26 yellow red vs white red QCPTMP2
Quick Charge Port Temperature Sensor, See DTC B2980 for how to test the sensor.
I don't think the sensor is broke, I think the PDM sees the wrong two wires and get a signal that is not from the sensor.
two wires are different colors.
normal speed vs. fast
what does QCPTMP stand for?
pin 25 yellow/black vs brown-yellow QCPTMP1
pin 26 yellow red vs white red QCPTMP2
Yes that is interesting--what is sent to the control board on the two wires in the PDM that doesn't have a QC Chademo Port? The use of different color wiring may be a clue to this.
From the FSM for the DTC, there should be (5k to 40k depending upon temperature) resistance between the QCPTEMP (1,2) and chassis ground. i would say you could add 2 resistors to fake this out IF you were getting the B2980.
But are the VCM and PDM for a non-fast charge car programmed to handle error codes for Fast Charge?
i don't know if the VCM and PDM are programmed for both configurations, or if there are 2 varieties for with- and without- Fast Charging.
It would be silly and confusing if a non-Chademo car started throwing DTCs related to the fast charge port.
i just had a terrible thought that what if the "new" PDM that you bought was defective, and two of the DTCs that are showing up are due to the PDM (since the car was running and driving before the swap, right?).
PDM is listed as possible cause.
PDM is listed as possible cause.
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Another common element of those 2 DTCs is a failure or lack of "Pre-Charge". That is part of the Main Contactor circuit which connects the HV to the Inverter thru a power resistor to pre-fill the big capacitor for a brief period. Once the capacitor reaches a certain voltage then the current slows down and the Main (+) Contactor switches ON to carry the drive/charge current, and the Pre-Charge Contactor switches OFF.
Since you had no issues with this before swapping PDM units, then what circuit is in the PDM related to Pre-Charge that might be affecting this function and preventing READY and Drive? Pre-Charge done in the HV Pack, but the control/drive is out of the VCM.
This might be a dumb question, but did you bolt the inverter power buss bars back together in the PDM? Are all the wire-to-wire connectors with the locking clips engaged (signals from the VCM to HV battery and PDM)?
Dala said he had an issue with an interlock, maybe related to the lid of the PDM--did you see any microswitch or other device along the lid flange?
Since you had no issues with this before swapping PDM units, then what circuit is in the PDM related to Pre-Charge that might be affecting this function and preventing READY and Drive? Pre-Charge done in the HV Pack, but the control/drive is out of the VCM.
This might be a dumb question, but did you bolt the inverter power buss bars back together in the PDM? Are all the wire-to-wire connectors with the locking clips engaged (signals from the VCM to HV battery and PDM)?
Dala said he had an issue with an interlock, maybe related to the lid of the PDM--did you see any microswitch or other device along the lid flange?
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Need to simulate the sensor....since I don't have a Quick Charge Port installed.
how do you suggest doing that?
Dala 9 wires pops contains this
I can buy a fast charge port for $100 but not for the 2013.
otherwise they are $500 t0 $1000 for new
VC-96
The quick charge port contains a temperature sensor, and the quick charge port temperature signals is sent as
two lines of voltage to the PDM (Power Delivery Module).
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If you wanted to test this, then you could get 2 resistors of the same value, e.g. 10k or 20k Ohms, the value doesn't matter just somewhat close to each other (to represent the same temperature); then twist or solder one end of each together and solder a wire to the joined end that will be connected to a chassis ground point. Then shove the open end of each resistor into the back side of the F23 or CN100 connector to the pins that correspond to the QCPTEMP terminals, e.g. CN100 pins 3 and 16, and connect the joint wire to some bolt or piece of metal that is attached to chassis ground, e.g. one of the screws that holds the control board inside the PDM.
Another option might be to add this resistor pair to the pins directly at the VCM connector.
Another option might be to add this resistor pair to the pins directly at the VCM connector.
