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  1. J

    Considering a 2015 Leaf S

    It was the selling price, no tax credits applied.
  2. J

    Considering a 2015 Leaf S

    Insurance is such a scam. My 2022 Tesla Model S had a purchase cost of $135K and thus my insurance is set accordingly. Except with the price cuts Tesla made last year the 2024 year of that car can be had for around $95K. But my insurance isn't reflecting that reality, they're charging me as if...
  3. J

    Considering a 2015 Leaf S

    The larger battery would alleviate a lot of our concerns. But it was the price which led her to even consider buying an EV. At this price it's almost a no brainer (I think she would pay about $3,100 for it after the tax credit). So why not just do it? Well, it's not like buying a TV where if you...
  4. J

    Considering a 2015 Leaf S

    In a way she would be a first time EV owner. I have told her the benefits and weaknesses of driving an EV but she needs to experience it herself. Taking it on a three miles test drive near the dealership doesn't cut it. In this situation, being that it's an EV, not only is a test drive about...
  5. J

    Considering a 2015 Leaf S

    The owners manual provides a fairly good description of charging times so the test is more than just charging time. It's about logistics, convenience, just general usage. Things which one discovers through trial and not just theory. Anyway at this point the dealer refused to allow the test so...
  6. J

    Considering a 2015 Leaf S

    The "issue" is I would like to see how what charging is like on L1. The test I outlined is how I would feel comfortable evaluating the Leaf based on our needs. We don't need this car, the intent of buying it would be to see how well an EV would fit her lifestyle. She's perfectly content with her...
  7. J

    Considering a 2015 Leaf S

    It's not so much that the L2 would be dedicated to the Tesla. It's just that I would rather not have to unplug the Tesla EVSE and then plug in the Leaf EVSE and then have to plug the Tesla EVSE in when I need to charge the Tesla (as a reference the Tesla sees maybe 7-8 miles a day on a regular...
  8. J

    Considering a 2015 Leaf S

    Unfortunately they won't allow me sufficient time to perform a full discharge drive. I could easily do a complete discharge in the time they offered to let me test drive it. The problem is I would have to recharge it...which would easily exceed the couple of hours they offered to let me test...
  9. J

    Considering a 2015 Leaf S

    I see there are three versions of LeafSpy: Free, LeafSpy, and LeafSpy Pro (the latter being the only option for iOS). I read that LeafSpy is intended for 2011 - 2017, is that the one I should go with? Or does LeafSpy Pro also work with the first generation? I will also need to buy a BT ODB-II...
  10. J

    Considering a 2015 Leaf S

    At this time the deal is on hold as the dealer has not permitted me to perform the extended test drive I've requested. Perhaps in a week or two when the car is still sitting on the lot they may be willing to but I am not holding my breath. As for having their own charger they may but part of my...
  11. J

    Considering a 2015 Leaf S

    The dealer said they could let us test it for a few hours but, IMO, that won't be sufficient because if we take it on a long drive we'll need to recharge it. Since I don't have access to a Leaf compatible L2 EVSE (I only have my Tesla EVSE) I'd be stuck recharging it with the L1 EVSE. Which...
  12. J

    Considering a 2015 Leaf S

    We're trying to determine if it meets her needs through an extended test drive but the dealer doesn't seem interested in allowing us to do so. Therefore we can only perform a paper analysis. I've heard stories of public charging problems. It would be something we'd like to investigate in the...
  13. J

    Considering a 2015 Leaf S

    I stumbled across a low mileage (73K) one for $4,500 + tax out the door which seems like a good deal on this car. I am a Tesla driver and thought I might pick this up for my GF to commute from her job (24 miles round trip) and around town. She has an ICE vehicle she can use for longer drives. We...
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