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    2013 pricing

    This is my first leaf. I've considered it several times over the years, driven them, made offers, etc.. But never pulled the trigger until now. Thanks for the SOH tip... that would be nice!
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    2013 pricing

    It is the 2016 with 40,000 miles, SL with premium package, and black. I found it locally, one that I had passed over previously for some reason. It's on the l1 charger but so far so good, the cells look evenly balanced so far and about 80% SOH. we'll see what it looks like tomorrow morning I...
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    2013 pricing

    The car was normal today, so it must have been related to the weak charge and the cold. I bought it! I have been debating this for almost 5 years, it's about time...
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    2013 pricing

    I looked in the 2011 owners manual, and it has the same statement about low temps. But leaf spy clearly shows that battery was 11 degrees, even though air temp was lower than that. The battery would have to be -4 before this occurs. I know you are all much more experience than I am, but I am...
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    2013 pricing

    To be clear, the car audio spoke and said something about power limitation. Upon pushing the info button, it displayed the warning about low temperature. And I found in the 2016 Owners Manual, page 2-20 (page 159 on the PDF). This light illuminates in the following conditions. -Li-ion battery...
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    2013 pricing

    So I drove the 2016 SL and it is nice, I want it. It was on the quick charger when I arrived, and maybe 50% full. The turtle was on the whole time, and the car said it was due to low temperature. It has been below zero Fahrenheit for the last two days, and at the moment it is around 5...
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    2013 pricing

    My understanding is that SV and SL from 2013+ have the heat pump, it is absolutely a requirement for me! And 2016 has 30kwh too..? And best part is it's local. I will go check it out tonight or tomorrow.
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    2013 pricing

    How about a 2016 which spent its first 3 years in Arizona? 2nd owner owned it for only 4 months. Should be a Lizard pack, it is also 11 bars (40,000 miles). That one is actually local! I think I eliminated it from my search because it was an arizona car... it is more in line with the...
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    2013 pricing

    I was hoping not to be this specific, but there's no way to go about it otherwise. Also I am unable to see the car in person, it would have to be shipped to me. And it is an independent used car place (not tied to a dealership) so I would probably be screwed if there was something wrong...
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    2013 pricing

    SL with premium package as well as cargo organizer.
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    2013 pricing

    I am looking at a 2013 which appears to be in great shape. Low miles, 11 bars remaining, premium package.. But the price is about $1500 more than KBB, NADA, Edmunds say (even on their high end). But I am finding higher than expected pricing basically everywhere (And if the car is within...
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    2013 SV what does this tell you

    Oh man, I think you're right. Thanks, It makes sense now. Looking at other images online I am thinking it is probably down to 8 bars. Maybe 9. I was assuming it was fully charged and then the capacity was about 1 notch down from that. But it looks like it's about 70-80% charged, and at 8 or...
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    2013 SV what does this tell you

    Considering a leaf 2013 sv, but am confused by a dealer picture which is admittedly somewhat fuzzy and hard to see the details. The dealer is not very close to me so am trying to evaluate it before going there (it's about 40 minute drive one way). The car is on, appears to be fully charged...
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    Thoughts on 2013 SL

    Are them there ODBII adapters usually available in any big box or automotive stores? I see some at local auto shops but they are $80-90 and I am unsure if they are compatible. Just looking to avoid the shipping time if I bought it online, in case I feel the urge to make a quick decision.
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    Thoughts on 2013 SL

    I found a 2013 SL with 40,000 miles for $8900 at a dealership. It was a 3-year lease from Raleigh NC. I don't have leafspy or a obdii thing, but I've asked the dealer for a BIS. Any thoughts on a leaf with this mileage, from NC? Seems like a pretty good deal if it is "healthy".
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    Thought I was ready.. then came here.

    First of all, thank you all for helping me understand this thing. I'm still a little confused about the 2013 heater. It has a heat pump which helps be more efficient. It is a hybrid heater, so there is another part to it. Is that the same as the 2012 heater (heats up water) or did they...
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    Thought I was ready.. then came here.

    So, sound like 2012 won't cut it on the coldest days. But a 2013 would (or might?). The 2013's aren't in my price range yet, but the 2012's are. I am looking at used market only, because of the residuals making this a "good deal". I don't think new ones are worth it (buy or lease), I think...
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    Thought I was ready.. then came here.

    At what temp do you think a 12-bar 2012 would fall below 50 mile range? It is October, and already around 40 in the mornings (colder than usual). Just wondering if it was like 10 in the morning and 30 in the evening, could it make it? Just a ballpark idea on the threshold will help us...
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    Thought I was ready.. then came here.

    Longest commute would be about 25 miles each way, 50 daily. But only three days/wk (work from home other days). I think about 1/3 of that would be city, 2/3 highway 65-70mph. Winter is probably slower than that due to conditions and increased traffic. I do not think there is a charger at...
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    Thought I was ready.. then came here.

    Is the 2013 much better than the 2012? I see lot of battery complaints about the 11/12 model years, but not much about the 13. Is it just that the class action was on the 11/12 and 13 is newer, or did they actually fix something in 13? To phrase it another way, if i'm buying a used LEAF...
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