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Re: Heater Coolant Hot when Charging - Teakettle Syndrome

Wed May 04, 2011 9:05 am

Well, "someone" should sell a little box that supplies a fake pilot signal to the onboard charger, with a Dial-an-Amp rotary switch on it.. put in a GFI to be safe and provide a socket to plug in a 240V or 220V extension.. I assume the charger in the car is auto-ranging and will adapt to 120V or 240V. Then all you would need to charge your Leaf would be an extension cord, but not a chintzy one please.. #12 at least. So no one can steal your EVSE while you are charging away from home.. its internal to the car, at most they can steal the extension cord.

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Re: Heater Coolant Hot when Charging - Teakettle Syndrome

Wed May 04, 2011 9:55 am

It would be great to have a little retractable cord built into the car. Flip the lid, pull out the 120v plug to reach the outlet, DONE. no box to get out of the backpack in the trunk, nothing worthwhile to steal. All built-in and always available.

For 120v at 12A, it should be as simple as a pull-out cord.

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Re: Heater Coolant Hot when Charging - Teakettle Syndrome

Wed May 04, 2011 6:53 pm

Back to the Teakettle Syndrome:

Nissan says the needed part should (maybe) come in tomorrow, and that the battery must be removed to access the LEAF's guts.

Oops, we dropped your battery!
The 12v battery?
Noooo, ... the BIG one! :lol:
See SOC/GID-Meter and CAN-Do Info
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Re: Heater Coolant Hot when Charging - Teakettle Syndrome

Wed May 04, 2011 9:25 pm

I look forward to finding out what part was needed to correct the teakettle issue.

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Re: Heater Coolant Hot when Charging - Teakettle Syndrome

Thu May 05, 2011 2:26 pm

EV2E wrote:I look forward to finding out what part was needed to correct the teakettle issue.

+1

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Re: Heater Coolant Hot when Charging - Teakettle Syndrome

Fri May 06, 2011 7:42 am

I have owned the LEAF SL (StanLEAF Steamer) since 4/27 (5PM) and this is morning of the tenth day. I have had the car in my posession for a total of about 96 hours and about 100 miles driven by me, mostly back and forth to dealerships. It has been in for service twice so far, first time up on back of a tow truck. It is still in the dealership repair right now, with battery out, and Nissan Japan techs trying to discover why the climate control heater is on while charging.
This seems to be a fine example of "bleeding edge" technology.
Gregg

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Re: Heater Coolant Hot when Charging - Teakettle Syndrome

Fri May 06, 2011 8:00 am

starry wrote:I have owned the LEAF SL (StanLEAF Steamer) since 4/27 (5PM) and this is morning of the tenth day. I have had the car in my posession for a total of about 96 hours and about 100 miles driven by me, mostly back and forth to dealerships. It has been in for service twice so far, first time up on back of a tow truck. It is still in the dealership repair right now, with battery out, and Nissan Japan techs trying to discover why the climate control heater is on while charging.
This seems to be a fine example of "bleeding edge" technology.
Gregg

I feel for you, man. That would be intensely frustrating.

Hang in there. For all their screwups on delivery, Nissan seems very interested in working the early failures out and sending the experts to the car.

I'm following this thread with interest, since I can't imagine a single part in the car responsible for this behavior. It really does seem impossible, yet there it is..

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Re: Heater Coolant Hot when Charging - Teakettle Syndrome

Fri May 06, 2011 8:10 am

I am confused why the main battery would be removed to diagnose the heater :?
1 bar lost at 21,451 miles, 16 months.
2 bar lost at 35,339 miles, 25 months.
LEAF traded at 45,400 miles for a RAV4-EV
RAV4 traded in for I-Pace Dec 2018

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Re: Heater Coolant Hot when Charging - Teakettle Syndrome

Fri May 06, 2011 8:11 am

starry wrote:I have owned the LEAF SL (StanLEAF Steamer) since 4/27 (5PM) and this is morning of the tenth day.
...
Gregg
GroundLoop wrote:I feel for you, man. That would be intensely frustrating.
+1
GroundLoop wrote:Hang in there. For all their screwups on delivery, Nissan seems very interested in working the early failures out and sending the experts to the car.
And thanks, Gregg, for involuntarily "falling on your sword" to benefit the rest of us LEAF owners!
Anna Nguyen

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Re: Heater Coolant Hot when Charging - Teakettle Syndrome

Sat May 07, 2011 11:57 am

I drove "StanLEAF Steamer" about 22 miles home last evening, let it sit out (ALL ALONE!) on the driveway, getting real cool.
Charging this AM with the L2 voltage by using Garygid's modified Nissan EVSE and my dryer AC socket in the garage. After two hours, no noticable increase in temps anywhere under the hood. Will test drive later today.
Bill from OC Nissan Irvine says the
"Dealer replace HTC switch, further diagnosis Junction Switch in Battery Control Module failed. Replaced.
Recheck fitment: Good.
Cleared system and recharged with test drive: Good.
No further action required.

Leaf-Module $416
DAT 294A1-3NA0A NSTK BOX ASSY - JUNC $538.93
DAT VOR/294A1 INSF VE5912 $53.89
Allowance: $215.87
Tech 418
Parts $808.39
Lab-Mechanical $416
Total charge $1224.39
FAC Warranty $1224.39
Nissan North America"

Maybe that will do the trick.
Gregg

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