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Re: 2015 "lizard" and 2016 24 kWh S battery capacity bar losers

Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:15 pm

cwerdna wrote:
Relayer1956 wrote:I own a 2015 SL and I've already lost 2 bars and I'm expecting the third to drop any time now.

I just posted my 100% charge statistics (see post below).
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 50#p507333
Relayer1956 at http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 54#p517554 has reported losing his 3rd bar on 1/27/18.
He he lost his 4th bar.

From http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... 54#p545754:
Relayer1956 wrote:Actually I did just a few days ago on 1/7/19. I've been meaning to post about it.

Mileage: 52,722
kWh: 14.1
SOC: 96.6%
GIDs: 182
SOH: 63%
Hx: 34.75%
Ah: 39.22

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Re: 2015 "lizard" and 2016 24 kWh S battery capacity bar losers

Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:35 am

2015 S, no bars lost.

Car was exported to Finland, has been here for 2 years. I'm expecting it to last a long time. It's so cold here :(

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Re: 2015 "lizard" and 2016 24 kWh S battery capacity bar losers

Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:02 am

Lost our first bar this week - 11,050 miles, but 3 years 3 months of ownership.

2015 Model SV
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Re: 2015 "lizard" and 2016 24 kWh S battery capacity bar losers

Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:43 am

evtifosi wrote:Lost our first bar this week - 11,050 miles, but 3 years 3 months of ownership.

2015 Model SV
Adding your location to your signature is helpful. ;)
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Re: 2015 "lizard" and 2016 24 kWh S battery capacity bar losers

Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:15 am

This guy in the mild climate PNW has hit 125K miles on his '15 Leaf and still has all 12 capacity bars: https://www.facebook.com/groups/seattle ... 259555264/.

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Re: 2015 "lizard" and 2016 24 kWh S battery capacity bar losers

Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:26 am

evtifosi wrote:Lost our first bar this week - 11,050 miles, but 3 years 3 months of ownership.

2015 Model SV
Is your local climate humid, or more dry? Dies it cool off much at night in Summer?
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Re: 2015 "lizard" and 2016 24 kWh S battery capacity bar losers

Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:39 am

LeftieBiker wrote:
evtifosi wrote:Lost our first bar this week - 11,050 miles, but 3 years 3 months of ownership.

2015 Model SV
Is your local climate humid, or more dry? Dies it cool off much at night in Summer?
Monterey Bay should be a very mild climate.

Example data below:
https://www.wunderground.com/weather/us ... erey/93940
https://www.usclimatedata.com/climate/m ... 724/2018/7
https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/monte ... her/331966

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Re: 2015 "lizard" and 2016 24 kWh S battery capacity bar losers

Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:43 am

Monterey Bay should be a very mild climate.
I didn't mean temperature extremes. I mean average and common humidity levels and nighttime temps. I speculate that the car wasn't cooling off enough because of moist air retaining heat and keeping overnight lows above the point where rapid pack cooling starts - below 68-70F. This would be worsened by a non-cooled garage...

...Nope. Temps in August fall into the low fifties. Interesting. High SOC, maybe?
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Re: 2015 "lizard" and 2016 24 kWh S battery capacity bar losers

Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:25 am

^^^
I suspect sustained high SoC. Yes.

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Re: 2015 "lizard" and 2016 24 kWh S battery capacity bar losers

Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:37 am

cwerdna wrote:^^^
I suspect sustained high SoC. Yes.
That is the key. But even if owner lives on the bay, the temperature averages just 10 miles inland can be quite extreme. Low mileage and "higher" temps and high SOC is the likely culprit.

If we look at super long range LEAFs, the big key is higher than normal usage which implies charging to full and immediately running that charge down. The 125,000 mile LEAFer admits to only charging to full just as he is ready to leave, charging to 80% or less as much as possible.

I also think that fuller cycling of the pack regularly helps the BMS maintain accuracy. My 2018 has lost enough that I am projected to get a new pack well before 100,000 miles but I am driving a lot less so cycling is shallow and I have huge doubts my BMS is reporting accurate information.
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