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Yes, typo, I do indeed mean 40 kWh.

The general manager at the dealership had received notification from Nissan. He was looking at a computer screen with details of the vehicles he was going to get, colors, packages, et cetera. I'm not sure if Nissan had stated they were resuming production in October, or whether that was his guesstimate.
 
eplus said:
alozzy said:
So, this is weird...

https://www.nissan.ca/en/electric-cars/leaf

The Nissan Canada website mentions 2019, but this seems to be the 2018 LEAF, based on the specs listed. Maybe they are getting ready to release the 2019?
I noticed that too the other day. It's weird that they would have the 2019 now for no apparent reason. I used the Internet Archive to see what that page looked like earlier in the year, and the only difference is the model year and the price is a little higher now.

I read a couple of articles about 2019 Leafs in Australia, and they seem to say the same thing - the 2018 Leaf US specs for their 2019 version. I don't think they got a 2018 Leaf over there.
 
Australian Leaf specifications are yet to be finalised according to Nissan Australia. Expected deliveries to start March 2019. I've read some speculation on Australian EV forums that Nissan have delayed the release in order to offer the larger battery model with increased range, given Australia's lack of charging infrastructure. Originally, in 2017, Nissan Australia said the expected release date for the Leaf was going to be October 2018. So far, only one sample has been available to journalists in Australia, and Nissan was at pains to stress that it was a 2018 European model specification.
 
So prices for 2019 Leafs have been announced and the 60Kwh version is "in the future". That's not a good sign. I'm ready to buy and waiting on that version.
 
Hopefully not long now. I suspect the 40kWh 2019s will launch in the fall, with the 60kWh version coming in the spring. But with the debacle with selling their battery division, I wouldn't be surprised if it takes longer still for Nissan to introduce it.

Nissan is in no rush. The 40kWh Leafs are still selling well world-wide. It's mostly the US market that really needs/wants the 60kWh Leaf.
 
I'm also just waiting for the 60 kWh (or 64 whatever it turns out to be). Sounds like the 40 kWh 2019 is available now, according to the press release: "on sale now at LEAF Certified Nissan dealers nationwide."

http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/channels/us-united-states-nissan-models-leaf/releases/nissan-announces-u-s-pricing-for-2019-leaf
 
So still waiting for the ~60kWh Leaf ePlus, $35k MSRP Tesla Model 3 SR, and EPA 258mi range Kona EV also recently pushed back for delivery in the U.S..
 
The lease on my 2015 Leaf ends next week, so I called NMAC to request an extension until the e-Plus is available. They said the e-Plus is scheduled for mid March 2019 and granted me a 7 month lease extension at the same monthly payment. I didn't ask about price. This was a couple of days before today's announcement of prices for the 2019 40 kWh models.
 
It is indeed disappointing that the 60 kWh version of the 2019 is arriving vaguely "in the future." However, the 40 kWh 2019 model could potentially be an improvement on the 2018. Here are some important questions (in my opinion) that still need to be answered about the 40 kWh 2019:

1. Who makes the battery? AESC or LG Chem? If the 2019 40 kWh Leaf has an LG Chem battery, then it would most likely hold its 151-mile range for much longer than the 2018 40 kWh Leaf.

2. What is the quick charging speed? Same "50kW" speed as the 2018, or the "100 kW' speed of the 2019?

3. Will Nissan quietly fix the rapidgate issue in the 2019 40 kWh Leaf?

I'm not holding my breath, but if the answer to even one of these questions is good, then the 40 kWh 2019 would be a significantly better car than the 2018.
 
A post on Reddit claims that the longer range LEAF will be out around mid-January:

The EV expert at my local Nissan says he has training scheduled for Jan 16th in regards to the longer range Leaf and claims it will be out about the same time.
 
JonathanT said:
eplus said:
The current "Save on the last of our 2018 models before they're gone" offers on nissanusa.com end on 9/04/2018.

The 2018 LEAF was revealed on 9/5/2017. http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/releases/overview-2018-nissan-leaf

Perhaps there will be a 2019 LEAF reveal around that time this year, which is a week from today.
Yes, I was tempted by the incentives to buy a 2018 Leaf, but last week the dealer told me that production had stopped (I inferred around the end of July), and I prefer not to buy a car that has been sitting on hot asphalt for a few weeks, possibly fully charged. So I've decided to wait for the 2019 40 kWh version.

FYI I just bought a '18 SL with a production date of August 16th FYI. No clue beyond that date of course.

Mine was on the lot for only 6 days before I bought it with 1 mile on the odometer & the dealer this time of year sees avg high temps of around 70-80F so all of that hopefully means the pack will be in best case shape! My OBDII adaptor arrives today so I can grab baseline LeafSpy numbers.
 
Guessing you will be at 99.66% SOH give or take a 10th.

As far as battery improvements; incremental at best.

no other real changes likely which includes QC profile, TMS profile (rapidgate) or BMS profile (80% or ANYTHING other than full charging)
 
According to a Japanese language website, the longer range LEAF will be at the LA Auto Show on 11/26-29.

One can hope...

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://car-report.jp/blog-entry-1675.html&xid=25657,15700023,15700124,15700126,15700149,15700186,15700190,15700201,15700214&usg=ALkJrhhIZbMwu_pXCqynjoiOY3sHTTNN_g
 
eplus said:
According to a Japanese language website, the longer range LEAF will be at the LA Auto Show on 11/26-29.

One can hope...

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://car-report.jp/blog-entry-1675.html&xid=25657,15700023,15700124,15700126,15700149,15700186,15700190,15700201,15700214&usg=ALkJrhhIZbMwu_pXCqynjoiOY3sHTTNN_g

Guess I'll be watching LA then. I can't wait to see what Nissan brings to the table.
 
Small piece on the new e-plus talking about projected prices and dealers orders guide.
Interesting to note they refer to a 60 kWh battery whilst most reports I have seen are universal in assuming its 64 kWh.

Link: https://www.thetorquereport.com/nissan/2019-nissan-leaf-e-plus-adds-more-driving-range-at-a-premium/

German Nissan dealer Facebook group is reporting details about the e-plus to be revealed by the end of October with order books being opened at the same time. Production to start soon after with a mid January in dealers time frame. We shall see...
 
geefish said:
Interesting to note they refer to a 60 kWh battery whilst most reports I have seen are universal in assuming its 64 kWh.
I've never paid any attention to 64 kWh rumors. It probably came from these guys: https://pushevs.com/2017/12/29/nissan-sees-leafs-competition/, which is mostly rumor, as far as I'm concerned. Who knows how many of their claims about the OBC wattage, LG Chem, thermal management, etc. will come true? I think they lifted the pic at https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155768448614413&set=g.170730229651313&type=1&theater&ifg=1. I was present at the EVent where the slide was shown.

Given the Bolt has a 60 kWh battery and 238 mile EPA range rating while the slide shows 225+ miles for '19 Leaf, 60 kWh seems like a safe assumption. Why would it be 64?
 
An interesting idea someone put up on a European EV forum a couple of weeks ago that might be of interest to people on this site. Someone suggested that Nissan would keep a small interest in their battery manufacturing operations so that in the future, when Nissan moves to a new design battery etc, it can be made under licence in the Nissan partnership factories. This would alleviate any potential battery supply problems and also solve some potential logistical obstacles. The factories are all alongside or on the same factories that manufacture the Leaf. I thought it was an interesting idea that had merit.
 
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