edatoakrun wrote:evnow, DaveinOlyWA, OrientExpress, SageBrush:
Not only are all your recent comments off-topic, you are bickering over long-term battery degradation of Gen one LEAFs, which it appears none of you (not having owned and driven a single LEAF since the introduction) are really informed to discuss, based on your own experience.
LOL. You do like flaunting your ignorance. Look at the "delivery date" of our first Leafs.
I suppose that's why the Gen one LEAF is the worlds best-selling BEV...?
Well, that is in spite of the poor battery of Leafs - not because of that. Its like how many cars/trucks GM sells, in spite of mediocre quality.
At least in the US, Leafs are selling for exactly the same reason GM/Ford sell cars. Leases are cheap. Infact you can go back and look at Leaf sales figures when the leases aren't highly subsidized.
I expect the Gen two LEAF to be the world's best-selling BEV, in 2018.
We'll come back to this at the end of 2018

SageBrush wrote:...Nissan gives EVs a horrible name.
Horrible is an extreme term - but we've to accept Nissan's battery degradation didn't do EVs any favor. I look forward to tell-all books about how the Leaf 1 battery was accepted to be produced. For sure Nissan knew they will degrade in hot climate - yet Arizona was one of the first 5 states they were sold in. Mind boggling.