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Durandal said:
Tesla Model 3 is actually rolling out with less optioned models first, in order to simplify production, with dual motor and performance version rolling out in late 2017 or Q1 2018. As such, you can expect $36k - 7.5k = $28,500.

The Tesla will start losing their tax credits fairly soon.
https://cleantechnica.com/2017/07/04/federal-ev-tax-credit-phase-quarter-tesla-becoming-clear-sort/
 
pbennett said:
Durandal said:
Tesla Model 3 is actually rolling out with less optioned models first, in order to simplify production, with dual motor and performance version rolling out in late 2017 or Q1 2018. As such, you can expect $36k - 7.5k = $28,500.

The Tesla will start losing their tax credits fairly soon.
https://cleantechnica.com/2017/07/04/federal-ev-tax-credit-phase-quarter-tesla-becoming-clear-sort/
By fairly soon you mean Q3 or Q4 when they start to be reduced? Sure, applicable to those who haven't reserved yet. For myself, I should get mine about this time next year. :)
 
Which is when the reductions could start... Not sure why you're so sure when you'll get it either, since Tesla hasn't told anyone when they'll get it. I've never received anything from them beyond 'thanks for the money...'. As for their build estimates, Tesla has never been right about any of their timelines or build schedules, ever.

Food for thought. I'll likely either get a Bolt or if more details on the new Leaf come out soon enough - a leaf.
 
Durandal said:
By fairly soon you mean Q3 or Q4 when they start to be reduced? Sure, applicable to those who haven't reserved yet. For myself, I should get mine about this time next year.
About half of the T3 reservations are for numbers beyond the cutoff off of the federal rebate. Who gets the full rebate and who gets less or none will come down to just what quarter of next year in which the target is actually passed. The calculations below suggest that the rebate during July of next year (3Q) will be 50% of the full $7,500 rebate.

http://redgreenandblue.org/2017/07/05/tesla-model-3-federal-ev-tax-credits-will-work/
 
Dooglas said:
Durandal said:
By fairly soon you mean Q3 or Q4 when they start to be reduced? Sure, applicable to those who haven't reserved yet. For myself, I should get mine about this time next year.
About half of the T3 reservations are for numbers beyond the cutoff off the federal rebate. Who gets the full rebate and who gets less or none will come down to just what quarter of next year in which the target is actually passed. The calculations below suggest that the rebate during July of next year (3Q) will be 50% of the full $7,500 rebate.

http://redgreenandblue.org/2017/07/05/tesla-model-3-federal-ev-tax-credits-will-work/
We can expect Tesla to juggle deliveries to maximize the number of cars that will qualify for the rebate, i.e. they'll make sure to just fall short of the cut-off at the end of whichever quarter they approach it.
 
So long as Tesla is producing 20k cars a month when the phase-out approaches and Tesla manages the roll-out as reported, it seems fair to estimate at least 155k Model 3 will be eligible for the full tax credit. Since about half of the reservations are outside the US, that suggests that at around 90% of US 2016 reservation holders will be eligible for $7,500 and the remainder eligible for $3,750

Bottom line: Nissan cannot rely on a bigger tax credit to help them take sales from Tesla.
 
Dooglas said:
Durandal said:
By fairly soon you mean Q3 or Q4 when they start to be reduced? Sure, applicable to those who haven't reserved yet. For myself, I should get mine about this time next year.
About half of the T3 reservations are for numbers beyond the cutoff off the federal rebate. Who gets the full rebate and who gets less or none will come down to just what quarter of next year in which the target is actually passed. The calculations below suggest that the rebate during July of next year (3Q) will be 50% of the full $7,500 rebate.

http://redgreenandblue.org/2017/07/05/tesla-model-3-federal-ev-tax-credits-will-work/
A lot more than half of the US reservations are likely to receive the full rebate, since about half of total reservation are from outside the US
 
SageBrush said:
Dooglas said:
Durandal said:
By fairly soon you mean Q3 or Q4 when they start to be reduced? Sure, applicable to those who haven't reserved yet. For myself, I should get mine about this time next year.
About half of the T3 reservations are for numbers beyond the cutoff off the federal rebate. Who gets the full rebate and who gets less or none will come down to just what quarter of next year in which the target is actually passed. The calculations below suggest that the rebate during July of next year (3Q) will be 50% of the full $7,500 rebate.

http://redgreenandblue.org/2017/07/05/tesla-model-3-federal-ev-tax-credits-will-work/
A lot more than half of the US reservations are likely to receive the full rebate, since about half of total reservation are from outside the US
So, you agree or disagree that the above calculations are a reasonable estimate?
 
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