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cwerdna said:
Is this thread still alive? Right now http://www.chademo.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; says:
The number of CHAdeMO DC Quick chargers installed up to today is 4241.
-- (Japan 2129 Europe 1327 USA 731 Others 54) last update 2014.10.07
I suppose it's technically still alive, but really, how many people care about the number of chargers of any given type on another continent that they'll never use? FWIW, Tesla's Sc count has almost certainy passed the CHAdeMo count in the U.S. now, as they're up to 748 as of Friday. Just for completeness, there are now 19 CCS listed on Plugshare in California including 11 in SoCal, although some of them are still 'coming soon'; when will people stop posting these?
 
GRA said:
Just for completeness, there are now 19 CCS listed on Plugshare in California including 11 in SoCal, although some of them are still 'coming soon'; when will people stop posting these?
There is http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=11679" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; for Frankenplug.

Yeah... gotta love those "coming soon" as well as the totally bogus sites like http://api.plugshare.com/view/location/56874" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. :roll:
 
cwerdna said:
Is this thread still alive? Right now http://www.chademo.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; says:
The number of CHAdeMO DC Quick chargers installed up to today is 4241.
-- (Japan 2129 Europe 1327 USA 731 Others 54) last update 2014.10.07

Yes, and I have updated the title.

There have been changes to the two sources I used 2+ years ago, when the thread started.

CHAdeMO now is displaying plugshare (North American) results (pre-filtered) at its site.

Direct link:

http://www.chademo.com/wp/usmap/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And someone at plugshare or CHAdeMO seems to have weeded most of the false CHAdeMO reports that used to plague plugshare. At least there are none I am aware of in Central and Northern CA, though permanently non-functional sites (Fairfield) are still shown.

The AFDC map now lists Tesla sites, with no way (?) to filter, so its pretty much useless.

http://www.afdc.energy.gov/locator/stations/results?utf8=%E2%9C%93&location=&filtered=true&fuel=ELEC&private=true&planned=true&owner=all&payment=all&ev_dc_fast=true&radius_miles=5" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

="GRA"
I suppose it's technically still alive, but really, how many people care about the number of chargers of any given type on another continent that they'll never use?...

Well, the fact that today there is one world-wide DC charging standard infrastructure open to all Vehicle manufactures and EV drivers, just might be of interest to some...

Japan site map here:

http://www.chademo.com/wp/jpmap/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And Europe and the rest of the world map here:

https://maps.google.fr/maps?q=http://www.chademo.com/kml/CHAdeMO_map_in_140314.kml&hl=en&ll=32.842674,34.101563&spn=128.725504,346.289063&sll=17.346713,136.117626&sspn=134.238673,346.289063&t=m&z=2&output=classic&dg=feature" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

="GRA"
FWIW, Tesla's Sc count has almost certainy passed the CHAdeMo count in the U.S. now, as they're up to 748 as of Friday...

Unfortunately, useless to all but drivers of Tesla S (and its derivatives).

="GRA"
Just for completeness, there are now 19 CCS listed on Plugshare in California including 11 in SoCal, although some of them are still 'coming soon'; when will people stop posting these?

Without a significant paying customer base, due to the tiny number of CCS capable vehicles planned for sale in the USA, I don't see a likely path for CCS to move beyond the current government mandates, subsidies, and private charitable efforts (well done, KIA) on a path to a dependable nationwide infrastructure.
 
edatoakrun said:
cwerdna said:
Is this thread still alive? Right now http://www.chademo.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; says:
The number of CHAdeMO DC Quick chargers installed up to today is 4241.
-- (Japan 2129 Europe 1327 USA 731 Others 54) last update 2014.10.07
<snip>
GRA said:
I suppose it's technically still alive, but really, how many people care about the number of chargers of any given type on another continent that they'll never use?...
Well, the fact that today there is one world-wide DC charging standard infrastructure open to all Vehicle manufactures and EV drivers, just might be of interest to some...
Interest, sure. Importance, no, except for the minimal number of people who might have a need to ship their PEV overseas. I'd think shipping cost and customs hassle would make this not worth the trouble for anything not a Tesla S/X - people will just buy/lease something local.


edatoakrun said:
GRA said:
FWIW, Tesla's SC count has almost certainly passed the CHAdeMO count in the U.S. now, as they're up to 748 as of Friday...
Unfortunately, useless to all but drivers of Tesla S (and its derivatives).
Which make up a fairly large % of the total BEVs in the U.S., and all the BEVs that are realistically practical for at least shorter road trips. Once Model 3 arrives (assuming it does), Tesla will have a charging infrastructure that is so far in advance of everyone else, there's really no comparison. So much of CHAdeMO is in the wrong place, broken/unreliable or has limited accessibility that in effect they'll have to start over from scratch. Hopefully CCS won't make the same mistakes, and at least in California they are generally not at dealers (Kia aside, and kudos to them for realizing that boosting EVs in general raises all boats). They do need to do more multiple installs at each location; I think there's only one or two sites now with 2 CCS/CHAdeMO.


edatoakrun said:
GRA said:
Just for completeness, there are now 19 CCS listed on Plugshare in California including 11 in SoCal, although some of them are still 'coming soon'; when will people stop posting these?
Without a significant paying customer base, due to the tiny number of CCS capable vehicles planned for sale in the USA, I don't see a likely path for CCS to move beyond the current government mandates, subsidies, and private charitable efforts (well done, KIA) on a path to a dependable nationwide infrastructure.
Guess we'll have to wait and see, now that we're getting more cars that can use it. The European manufacturers are certainly supporting CCS-2 there, judging by today's ievs.com article:

CCS Charger Installs Surpass 500 In Europe
http://insideevs.com/ccs-charger-installs-surpass-500-europe/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This quote in particular stands out:

“With today’s update the CCS charger count on http://ccs-map.eu/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; for Europe is over 500! 400 was crossed September 25th and less than a month later another 100 were added.”

This is Tesla SC deployment speed. Edit: This GCR article has an intriguing bit of rumor/news re CCS:

Ford Can Design Tesla-Like Electric Car, CEO Says; Does Higher-Power Charging Push Mean It May?
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1095125_ford-can-design-tesla-like-electric-car-ceo-says-does-higher-power-charging-push-mean-it-may" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
The number of CHAdeMO DC Quick chargers installed up to today is 4254.
-- (Japan 2129 Europe 1327 USA 744 Others 54) last update 2014.11.05

http://www.chademo.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A few more USA DCs in this update.

More importantly, something that looks like the first real public Charge station in the USA is now operational (?) near Las Vegas.

Four DCs, no waiting...

http://www.plugshare.com/?location=55872" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Can someone please check it out and post the details?

I expect we'll see a dozen or more DC plugs at many large public stations along major freeways in BEV-intensive states before the decade is out.

Too bad Nissan USA has done so little (yet) to help reach that reality.
 
edatoakrun said:
More importantly, something that looks like the first real public Charge station in the USA is now operational (?) near Las Vegas.
Four DCs, no waiting...
http://www.plugshare.com/?location=55872" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Assuming this is actually available (there's one positive PlugShare comment), this would be quite a step forward for CHAdeMO deployments. Too bad it's not closer to I-15, however.

Looking at PlugShare, I just noticed a standalone solar-powered CHAdeMO charger in Joshua Tree. It only works when the sun is shining! Impressive.
http://api.plugshare.com/view/location/57014" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
The number of CHAdeMO DC Quick chargers installed up to today is 5010.
-- (Japan 2819 Europe 1327 USA 810 Others 54) last update 2015.01.06
http://www.chademo.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Future projections, reported by InsideEVs:

...Nissan sent us an update on the status (and future) of CHAdeMO fast chargers in the U.S. Here are the highlights:

Timeline of (CHAdeMO) quick charging rollout...

- April 1, 2015: 1,100 quick chargers expected nationwide.

- April 1, 2016: 1,700 quick chargers projected...
http://insideevs.com/nissan-april-2015-1100-chademo-fast-chargers-expected-operational-nationwide/#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Latest news from Europe suggests we are well on our way to CHAdeMO becoming the single world public DC standard, with the two regional standards in Europe And the USA (the two AC/DC combi-plugs) requiring two plug designs at every public DC charge station, to insure compatibility.

...We are pleased to inform you that CHAdeMO protocol is now officially recognised as a European (EN) charging technology standard by CENELEC*, a European official standardisation organisation.

On December 31, 2014, the outstanding standard on DC fast charging connectors (EN 62196-3) was published on the CENELEC national committees' websites. This completes the set of technical standards that define DC fast charging, together with previously approved DC fast charging system standards: one that defines the requirements for DC chargers and for the control communication between a DC fast charger and an EV (EN 61851-23), as well as the other providing definitions of charger-EV digital communication (EN 61851-24). The recognitions of these 3 standards make CHAdeMO an EU technical DC charging standard along with Combo2, whose connectors were also included in EN 62196-3.

This shall endorse and reinforce the current market trend of equipping fast chargers with both CHAdeMO and Combo2 connectors, the two EN fast charging standards designated by CENELEC...
http://www.chademo.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/EN_standard_2015_01_05.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

...EU is accelerating its fast charger network installation. With the EU Directive embracing multistandard
fast charging coming into force on 28 October 2014, installation of “fast chargers for all” is literally charging up.
In October 2013, we have reported about the approval of a €7,3 million charging infrastructure project across the
U.K. and Ireland. Named the RCN (Rapid Charging Network) project, they are speeding up for the completion of
the 74-charger network. This was the first of the multi-standard, multi-country charging infrastructure project
supported by the EU, together with four automakers that selected different protocols of fast charging for their
EVs: BMW, Nissan, Renault, and Volkswagen...
http://www.chademo.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/2015-01-19%20EU-funded%20projects.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
Meanwhile, the total of CCS-2 in Europe has topped 700: http://ccs-map.eu/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, over 600 of which have 24/7 accessibility, and both VW and BMW say that they are going to be putting in CCS-1 in the U.S. in a big way starting this year. BMW's announcement of 2015 being the 'infrastructure year' was about a month ago IIRR, and VW/BMW just announced this today, via GCR:
BMW, VW, And ChargePoint To Build 100 CCS Fast-Charging Sites For Electric Cars
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1096446_bmw-vw-and-chargepoint-to-build-100-ccs-fast-charging-sites-for-electric-cars" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ievs.com has the same story, but more detail on the locations, basically both coasts: http://insideevs.com/bmw-ccs-rollout/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I can't find it at the moment, but VW just recently said they would be putting CCS at their dealerships, as well as looking to put them at other locations (as above).
 
The Chronicle reports that BMW and VW are funding Chargepoint to install 100 quick chargers spaced no more than 50 miles apart to link San Diego to Portland, and Washington D.C. to Boston along interstate highways. Although the article says nothing about charger standards I'd expect that BMW and VW would require CCS (Frankenplug) connectors. Does anyone know if these will be dual standard stations with CCS and CHAdeMO?

http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/High-speed-electric-car-chargers-to-link-San-6031240.php
 
walterbays said:
The Chronicle reports that BMW and VW are funding Chargepoint to install 100 quick chargers spaced no more than 50 miles apart to link San Diego to Portland, and Washington D.C. to Boston along interstate highways. Although the article says nothing about charger standards I'd expect that BMW and VW would require CCS (Frankenplug) connectors. Does anyone know if these will be dual standard stations with CCS and CHAdeMO?

http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/High-speed-electric-car-chargers-to-link-San-6031240.php

Sounds to me like most or all will have CHAdeMO or dual standard ~50 kW chargers.

On-topic thread with link to ChargePoint PR release:

ChargePoint DC Charge Corridors on the East and West Coasts

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=18982" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
edatoakrun said:
More importantly, something that looks like the first real public Charge station in the USA is now operational (?) near Las Vegas.
Four DCs, no waiting...
http://www.plugshare.com/?location=55872" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm not sure I understand. If you're talking about multiple unit installations, then there are several on Maui, and have been for quite some time:
http://api.plugshare.com/view/location/20625
http://api.plugshare.com/view/location/15713
http://api.plugshare.com/view/location/19314
http://api.plugshare.com/view/location/19316
http://api.plugshare.com/view/location/15714
 
walterbays said:
The Chronicle reports that BMW and VW are funding Chargepoint to install 100 quick chargers spaced no more than 50 miles apart to link San Diego to Portland, and Washington D.C. to Boston along interstate highways. Although the article says nothing about charger standards I'd expect that BMW and VW would require CCS (Frankenplug) connectors. Does anyone know if these will be dual standard stations with CCS and CHAdeMO?

http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/High-speed-electric-car-chargers-to-link-San-6031240.php
Per an article at GCC:
In the initial phase, the aim is to install nearly 100 DC Fast charging ports across both coasts, with plans to expand the program to increase access to fast charging across the country. The installations will occur both within and between relevant metro areas, strategically spaced at a maximum of 50 miles (80 km) apart. Each fast charging location along the express charging corridors is expected to include up to two 50 kW DC fast chargers or 24 kW DC fast chargers with the SAE Combo connector. The 50 kW fast chargers will also have a CHAdeMO connector available, according to Volkswagen, while the 24 kW units will be SAE Combo only, at least to start.
Full article here, which has the most complete info I've found: http://www.greencarcongress.com/2015/01/20150122-vwbmwcp.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Some more detail/theorizing on Tom Moloughney's blog: http://bmwi3.blogspot.com/2015/01/bmw-partners-with-volkswagen.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
walterbays said:
The Chronicle reports that BMW and VW are funding Chargepoint to install 100 quick chargers spaced no more than 50 miles apart to link San Diego to Portland, and Washington D.C. to Boston along interstate highways. Although the article says nothing about charger standards I'd expect that BMW and VW would require CCS (Frankenplug) connectors. Does anyone know if these will be dual standard stations with CCS and CHAdeMO?

http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/High-speed-electric-car-chargers-to-link-San-6031240.php

Yes, they will be the 62.5kW Efacec with both CHAdeMO and CCS-Combo1 on the corridor routes, and the 20-25kW Bosch units with only CCS-Combo1 at destinations, like dealerships.

http://www.efacecusa.com/product-services/electric-mobility/ev-chargers" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
We added more CHAdeMO in the world in 56 days than all the SAE-CCS-Combo1 equipment ever installed:

124 new CHAdeMO chargers added in USA between 9 Jan 2015 and 6 March 2015:

Adding about 2-3 per day in the USA, and 8 per day worldwide !!!

Japan -- now 2819, was 2819 (obviously not updated)
Europe - now 1659, was 1327
USA ---- now 934, was 810
Others - now 55, was 54

5467 Worldwide (6 March 2015)
5010 Worldwide (9 January 2015)
 
Got 7 more Chademo/CCS combos going in here in Norfolk in the coming weeks! Finally after 3 years of having a Leaf they are springing up all over everytime I look at Plugshare! :mrgreen:
 
Roadburner440 said:
Got 7 more Chademo/CCS combos going in here in Norfolk in the coming weeks! Finally after 3 years of having a Leaf they are springing up all over everytime I look at Plugshare! :mrgreen:
Yeah, Plugshare's now showing 144 CCS in the U.S./Canada, and most of those appear to not be at dealers (don't know about your area), so the dual-standard ones should be a lot more useful.
 
Yeah oddly enough a lot of them are going in at hotels.. Which kind of perplexes me. Then 1 is at a restaurant, 3 more are at parking garages, and 1 went in at a gas station by a rest area on the highway. Going to go check the one out that is 14 miles from my house today to see if it is operational. Says coming soon, but so did the other one and it worked. Think they just plop them on there and figure when people use them it will get updated. Richmond, VA is getting a lot of Chademo/SAE combo as well. All of them appear to be getting installed by Green Lots.
 
Roadburner440 said:
Yeah oddly enough a lot of them are going in at hotels.. Which kind of perplexes me. Then 1 is at a restaurant, 3 more are at parking garages, and 1 went in at a gas station by a rest area on the highway. Going to go check the one out that is 14 miles from my house today to see if it is operational. Says coming soon, but so did the other one and it worked. Think they just plop them on there and figure when people use them it will get updated. Richmond, VA is getting a lot of Chademo/SAE combo as well. All of them appear to be getting installed by Green Lots.
Tesla's been putting a lot of SCs at hotels/motels lately. Seems they have some kind of deal with Holiday Inn Express. I agree that hotels/motels would seem to be odd choices for QCs, as you'd think they'd want to put in J1772s for overnight guests, but I don't think anyone's complaining. :D Anything's better than car dealerships with restricted access and hours.
 
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