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Re: Charging Station etiquette? Volt owners hogging the juic

Thu May 16, 2013 4:02 pm

JasonA wrote:I think there is a pattern starting to show which kinda sucks. I don't have a problem pulling out their plug if they're charged up and the alarm goes off for 30 seconds..

I think it's less than 20 seconds.. :roll:
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Re: Charging Station etiquette? Volt owners hogging the juic

Thu May 16, 2013 5:31 pm

davewill wrote:
Geraldk wrote:With all these plug-ins selling the charging stations are getting crowed.

The spot I use was taken up by a Volt and a Prius when I went to charge. I did not "have to" charge, so I left it alone. I did feel that if I needed the charge, I would have unplugged the Prius as they can still get home. ...
I'm confused. If you didn't need the charge and you intended to "leave it alone", why didn't you just park elsewhere and let that be the end? Why did you keep expecting other folks to plug you in? Did you ask any of them to, or even leave a note? I assure you that I certainly wouldn't touch someone's car without express permission.

Also, it may be that they had more need than you did, since you said you could get home, while they may have needed a charge to avoid burning gas to get home.


Sorry let me be more clear, did not mean to be confusing.
I could easily get home, I left home to go to this store. I was being a patron of the business with the charger. The reason I go to that store, I have my choice of stores to patron, is they have a charger and the others don't. I try and support companies who want to earn my business with "free charging". It's a nice perk. I save .25 when I shop there. ;-)

I parked in one of the two electric parking spots. This lot has about six spots that can use the two chargers. If I came out and saw another electric car with the charge port open, I would remove the plug from my car and plug them in. I don't think that is unreasonable. And I would assume the reason their port is open is they wanted me to plug them in, otherwise they would have A) parked somewhere else or B) left their charge port closed. It would be nice to see a note.

The other two owners were not there to ask if I could plug in and I did not have a pen and paper handy, so no I did not leave a note saying plug me in if you get back first. As I said when I got back the cars were still there charging, so I don't know what would have happened. I have heard others on this forum say they have left their port open and come back to find the plug just lying on the ground and the driver didn't even put it back on the stand, let alone plug them in.

Again, I said IF I had needed to charge to get home, I might have unplugged a hybrid type car, especially if I knew their state of charge. I have not come across that need and I hope I don't, but I don't really know what I do, yet.

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Re: Charging Station etiquette? Volt owners hogging the juic

Thu May 16, 2013 10:10 pm

I have been in that situation before and left a note both on my car & the charging car and ... it worked. They plugged me in after they left. I would not presume to plug in someone else without a note.

I also won't hesitate to unplug any car that has finished charging if I need it. But I won't unplug any charging car - even a PIP (oh but I have been tempted ...).

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Re: Charging Station etiquette? Volt owners hogging the juic

Fri May 17, 2013 6:44 am

is there a charger out there that does not indicate when its actively charging? if not, why are we looking at the car to determine whether or not its charging?
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Re: Charging Station etiquette? Volt owners hogging the juic

Fri May 17, 2013 11:04 am

GregH wrote:
JasonA wrote:I think there is a pattern starting to show which kinda sucks. I don't have a problem pulling out their plug if they're charged up and the alarm goes off for 30 seconds..

I think it's less than 20 seconds.. :roll:
Ok... and your point of the rolling eyes is?

Again, I think Loitering Volts (which now seems to be a proven theory) is not right.
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Re: Charging Station etiquette? Volt owners hogging the juic

Fri May 17, 2013 11:16 am

JasonA wrote:
GregH wrote:
JasonA wrote:I think there is a pattern starting to show which kinda sucks. I don't have a problem pulling out their plug if they're charged up and the alarm goes off for 30 seconds..

I think it's less than 20 seconds.. :roll:
Ok... and your point of the rolling eyes is?.


Not like I've timed it or anything..

If I *NEED* a charge I have no problem unplugging a Volt (or PiP) regardless of it's SOC (assuming it's not paying for the juice, that's different).
The vast majority of the time I don't actually NEED the charge and it's just a matter of who is more deserving of free juice? Aside from the whole first come first served notion, I suppose in that situation I should let the Volt charge under the assumption that he/she needs it just to avoid burning gasoline and that's probably a good thing for all of us...
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Re: Charging Station etiquette? Volt owners hogging the juic

Sat May 18, 2013 7:57 am

Well not only do we have to worry about other Volt and jerkoff EVer's hogging the juice.. we have to worry about A-HOLE ICE owners hogging our spots also!! :twisted: :evil:

Went last night to the food trucks in Mission Hills and decided to try out my new Blink card.. look at what I found waiting for me...

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A BMW driver no less... :roll:

EDIT: I think now when I go to get RedBulls and other drinks at the gas station.. I'm just going to start pulling up at the pumps :D
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Re: Charging Station etiquette? Volt owners hogging the juic

Sat May 18, 2013 8:28 am

JasonA wrote:Well not only do we have to worry about other Volt and jerkoff EVer's hogging the juice.. we have to worry about A-HOLE ICE owners hogging our spots also!! :twisted: :evil:

Went last night to the food trucks in Mission Hills and decided to try out my new Blink card.. look at what I found waiting for me...

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A BMW driver no less... :roll:

EDIT: I think now when I go to get RedBulls and other drinks at the gas station.. I'm just going to start pulling up at the pumps :D


i saw the same thing the other night at Union Station's charging stations. One was ICE'd by an old Ford Escort, and the other was taken up by a 2013 Cayenne Red Leaf SV whose charging was already completed (and still was there 3 hours later when I left). Fortunately there were two empty spaces with working chargers.
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Re: Charging Station etiquette? Volt owners hogging the juic

Sat May 18, 2013 8:32 am

I am not quite so bold, but has anyone ever blocked an ICE car in their spot in a situation like this? Park directly behind the offending car, plug in, leave a note with cell phone number

It would certainly send a clear message to anyone passing by in addition to the car owner.

Firefighters have interesting ways of solving similar problems

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Re: Charging Station etiquette? Volt owners hogging the juic

Sat May 18, 2013 8:35 am

P71VIC wrote:I am not quite so bold, but has anyone ever blocked an ICE car in their spot in a situation like this? Park directly behind the offending car, plug in, leave a note with cell phone number


The only thing I'd be afraid of is vandalism to my Leaf. And the only note I'd leave is one telling them what a selfish doosh they are, and certainly nothing with my phone number on it!

Firefighters have interesting ways of solving similar problems

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Someone needs to update this classic Mentos commercial, showing a BEV driver finding a charge station ICE'd and coming up with a clever solution around it once he or she has popped a Mentos:

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