mavissmith
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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Sat May 11, 2013 11:36 pm

mavissmith wrote:
Just lost my first capacity bar. I will report my case on Monday since Nissan Leaf Support is closed for the day.

TomT wrote:
I'm not sure it really makes any real difference. They close out the case after awhile anyway and it then disappears from their system...
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You're probably right, TomT, but I still feel it needs to be reported, documented, and hopefully/ideally resolved for us or perhaps for future generations of EV owners (which may still include us). I'm not ready to throw in the towel just yet. -ms

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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Sun May 12, 2013 8:37 am

mavissmith wrote:mavissmith wrote:
Just lost my first capacity bar. I will report my case on Monday since Nissan Leaf Support is closed for the day.
TomT wrote:
I'm not sure it really makes any real difference. They close out the case after awhile anyway and it then disappears from their system...
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You're probably right, TomT, but I still feel it needs to be reported, documented, and hopefully/ideally resolved for us or perhaps for future generations of EV owners (which may still include us). I'm not ready to throw in the towel just yet. -ms

mavissmith is doing the right thing by reporting this problem to Nissan. Having worked in an auto dealership for several years, I can tell you that all OEM's keep very detailed stats of customer complaint calls. It is just one more way to keep the pressure on Nissan to do right by their customers.
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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Sun May 12, 2013 9:29 am

Reporting a lost bar at 27k and 19 months is about the same as reporting the tires are getting worn down.
JMHO

Now the guys in AZ that report three even four bars missing in half the time have something to report.
1 bar lost at 21,451 miles, 16 months.
2 bar lost at 35,339 miles, 25 months.
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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Sun May 12, 2013 7:45 pm

smkettner wrote:Reporting a lost bar at 27k and 19 months is about the same as reporting the tires are getting worn down.
JMHO



Funny you should mention that. My tyres are worn down. 25,000 miles and looking to replace all 4 before the end of summer. I believe the all on torque available at rest contributes to faster tire wear on the LEAF or any EV. Michelin's next time round.

However on a more pleasant note according to turbo3's leaf battery app, I'm at 91% of original capacity. His app appears to read 1-2% high on new LEAFs in the showroom, so I'm willing to settle for 10% loss coming up to 2 years in July. Compared to what the folks in Arizona have seen this is great.
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110,000 Miles.
Lost 5 Capacity bars
7/18/13 (29,206), 8/25/14 (51,728), 7/12/15 (71.108), 5/12/16 (88,362), 10/17/16 (96,532)
New Battery 12/3/16 (98,956)

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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Wed May 15, 2013 9:44 pm

Here comes June ...It will be HOT...It was June of last year where I lost 2 bars.. Will it happen again I have no idea ..Im actually driving slower because of the huge loss of miles per charge..

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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Thu May 16, 2013 8:26 am

Aaaaand, there goes my 3rd bar.
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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Thu May 16, 2013 8:51 am

turbo2ltr wrote:Aaaaand, there goes my 3rd bar.


You might be a good candidate for the warranty. How many miles?

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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Thu May 16, 2013 8:54 am

22.8k
I entered it into the wiki.

I've been "out of the loop" lately. Is there a warranty thread? I thought I read somewhere it didn't cover 2011s.
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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Thu May 16, 2013 9:04 am

turbo2ltr wrote:22.8k
I entered it into the wiki.

I've been "out of the loop" lately. Is there a warranty thread? I thought I read somewhere it didn't cover 2011s.


It's not official yet, nor is the price of the battery, but "by spring" we should have the details:

5 year / 60,000 miles

If your car loses 5 capacity bars, hence triggering what is sometimes referred to as "70%" capacity, but according to the original service manual is 66.25%, then you can get a refurbished battery that will bring you back up above 70%.

Sounds awesome, right?

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Re: Early Capacity Losses-Was(Lost a bar...down to 11)

Thu May 16, 2013 9:09 am

TonyWilliams wrote:If your car loses 5 capacity bars, hence triggering what is sometimes referred to as "70%" capacity, but according to the original service manual is 66.25%, then you can get a refurbished battery that will bring you back up above 70%.

I thought the warranty kicked in if you lost more than three bars, i.e. they guarantee you will have nine (or more) bars until 5 years/60k. They are only guaranteeing eight bars?
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[35 months] [35K miles] [9 Bars]
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