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Re: Nice photos of LEAFs pulling taxi duty in Osaka!

Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:58 pm

edatoakrun wrote:
GRA wrote:From Green Car Reports:

..."Where a 60-mile range was once common in regular use, some are finding that cut to as low as 30 miles...
Full article here:

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/108 ... th-drivers


Very sad that a site that calls itself "Green Car Reports" would publish this FUD.

Obviously, IF any LEAF has lost half its available battery capacity, it requires a replacement battery pack.

There was some discussion of the Japan Today story on SF BayLeafs FB page.

Microsoft in Redmond, WA had (not sure if they still have) at least 2 Leafs as campus shuttles, in addition to MANY other vehicles. A friend of mine talked to one of the drivers and was told that winter performance (he's referring to range/battery depletion) is extremely poor because the doors open and close all the time. So, a lot of power is used in heating/reheating the cabin. That could be likely making things worse for those Japanese Leaf taxis in winter, in addition to degradation and poor cold weather perf of the batteries.

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Re: Nice photos of LEAFs pulling taxi duty in Osaka!

Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:03 pm

cwerdna wrote:
edatoakrun wrote:
GRA wrote:From Green Car Reports:

..."Where a 60-mile range was once common in regular use, some are finding that cut to as low as 30 miles...
Full article here:

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/108 ... th-drivers


Very sad that a site that calls itself "Green Car Reports" would publish this FUD.

Obviously, IF any LEAF has lost half its available battery capacity, it requires a replacement battery pack.

There was some discussion of the Japan Today story on SF BayLeafs FB page.

Microsoft in Redmond, WA had (not sure if they still have) at least 2 Leafs as campus shuttles, in addition to MANY other vehicles. A friend of mine talked to one of the drivers and was told that winter performance (he's referring to range/battery depletion) is extremely poor because the doors open and close all the time. So, a lot of power is used in heating/reheating the cabin. That could be likely making things worse for those Japanese Leaf taxis in winter, in addition to degradation and poor cold weather perf of the batteries.

Yes, and it's not exactly an option to tell a fare, "hey, we can't use the heater if you want to get to your destination. Just hold onto these chemical heating pads instead."
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Re: Nice photos of LEAFs pulling taxi duty in Osaka!

Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:11 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:another thing to mention. in all the taxi's i rode in while in Japan. have to say the average age was 15+ years old and OLDER

The taxis may not have been as old as you think. I've visited Japan 4x between 01 and 09. I avoided taking taxis there because they're known to be very expensive but seen plenty on the road and have ridden in a few. They might just LOOK old inside and out because of their outdated styling.

I can't claim to know the JDM cars well, but many taxis I noticed are Toyota (Crown?) Comfort (http://toyota.jp/comfort/index.html, http://toyota.jp/crowncomfort/index.html and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Crown_Comfort) and Nissan Cedrics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Ced ... ration_Y31, http://www.nissan.co.jp/CEDRIC/index.html and http://www.nissan.co.jp/CEDRIC/equip.html). Unfortunately, I can't read Japanese, but some of pages work with http://translate.google.com.

Be sure to click thru the links on the left side of the Nissan and Toyota pages I linked to. You'll see what looks like rather retro/outdated interiors and dashes. Examples:

http://toyota.jp/crowncomfort/spec/spec/index.html
http://toyota.jp/crowncomfort/navi-audi ... index.html
http://toyota.jp/comfort/spec/spec/index.html
http://toyota.jp/crowncomfort/interior_ ... index.html even shows what looks like a taxi.

http://www.nissan.co.jp/CEDRIC/interior.html
http://www.nissan.co.jp/CEDRIC/equip.html - check out the radio, HVAC panels and shape of the interior bits around the parking brake handle

http://www.toyota-ej.co.jp/english/products/car.html and http://www.toyota-global.com/company/hi ... japan.html seems to confirm that those outdated looking Toyotas are still being made.

It would be interesting if someone who's lived in Japan for a long time and has more knowledge of the taxi fleet there would chime in. Perhaps I should start a separate thread for that.

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Re: Nice photos of LEAFs pulling taxi duty in Osaka!

Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:30 am

opencar wrote:
Herm wrote:They may be using L3 charging if required, and L2 overnight.

Are the rain gutters on the windows standard?, never noticed them before.



I've been wanting to buy these window guards for a year now; anyone got a contact in Japan that can grab some of these? no luck on finding any source online.



Anyone find any US or Japan suppliers for window rain guards yet?

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Re: Nice photos of LEAFs pulling taxi duty in Osaka!

Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:47 pm

i did find a place finally:
http://www.japanparts.com/

i have them installed & tho they look good i had hoped they would have decreased the reverb problem at 40-50 mph but no dice.
1st bar- 22K, 27mo, Ah=55.29
2nd- 33K, 37mo, Ah=51.54
3rd- 41K, 46mo, Ah=47.47
4th- 49K, 53mo, Ah=43.28
Warranty Lizard- 50K, Oct'15
Jun'16- 56K, Ah=66.14
Aug'17- 70K, 22mo, Ah=59.9
Aug'18- 79K, 36mo, Ah=56.4

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