ocean
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Re: Nissan Leaf Leasing Information

Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:19 pm

madbrain wrote:
cwerdna wrote:
jon wrote:Ready to lease a LEAF SL, near San Jose, CA

Be careful w/both Premier Nissans. See viewtopic.php?p=236138#p236138.

The other person who I mentioned is here on MNL and briefly told me about his bad experience. I don't recall the details but when he mentioned "Premier Nissan", my reply was "there's your problem". I'll let him come forward, if he wishes to.

If you do end up leasing from them (or attempting to), I'd be curious to know if it turns out good/bad.

I don't know if us 3 were the exception or the norm. If it happens too often, I kind of wonder how places like that stay in business. They are very convenient for me in terms of distance, but they'd definitely not be my 1st choice to buy/lease from...


I tried to lease a Leaf over the week-end. I went to 3 different dealerships. First premier in Fremont. They had advertised a deal of $270/month + tax for 36 months with $0 down on craigslist. I called at 2:30pm to confirm the deal was still good and they had the blue one in stock. Showed up at 4pm - car was not there, supposedly got sold "this morning". But they had a silver one, which I didn't want. They would only honor the price for the one on their lot. They wanted $1400 more to get one from another dealership.

Then I went to Capitol in San Jose. They claimed they would match the price and get a blue car from an SF dealership the same day. They didn't match the price, couldn't get the car the same day, and it was coming from Sacramento, not SF. They said it would take 2 days. My experience was so bad, you can read my review on Yelp from 10/13. They are the worst liars and I will never deal with them again. If I manage to get a Leaf I will not take it for service there even though they are the closest to where I live.

Yesterday I went to Stevens Creek in San Jose. They claimed on the phone they would match the Fremont dealer price and get the car transferred to them. But when we showed up, they could not actually make it happen. The price they asked was about $1400 higher over 3 years.

Apparently, there is no blue SL to be had within 200 miles of San Jose at this time. It would have to be driven from Sacramento and that's very problematic with the Leaf given that it needs at least one full charge half way through to make it, or perhaps two full charges.

I was mightily inconvenienced as my Prius 2007 was dropped at the body shop for to prep it for sale on saturday, and it won't be back until wednesday. I had to get a rental car today to get to work. Apparently the Leafs have become more popular due to the high gas prices. I have wasted a lot of time trying to get one, but perhaps this is just not meant to be.
I really, really, really wish one could just do the deal and submit the order online so I do not ever have to talk to a car dealer in my life again.

madbrain, you are just too nice to them. I feel sorry about your story. Use my quote as your weapon on any dealers.

cwerdna, it will be nice to have honest dealership in US. However, there is no such thing in real world. Don't be idealistic. It is a "fight" between you and dealer. It never come easy. And most of fights are nasty.

jon, you can PM me.

Is it my negotiate skill or I am just lucky? Not sure. I got a good deal from a dealer some people do not like.....Very interesting....I want blue one, too. If I hesitate few more days, it would have all gone in Bay Area.

Here is my Blue SL Leaf. After having it one week, I am now a true believer of electric car! I wish I can lease another one, but our family have enough cars already.
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madbrain
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Re: Nissan Leaf Leasing Information

Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:32 pm

ocean wrote:madbrain, you are just too nice to them. I feel sorry about your story. Use my quote as your weapon on any dealers.


I really wonder, which dealer did the deal for you ?

I walked out on 3 dealers, so I can't have been too nice. None of them tried to get us to come back in when we did.

Stevens Creek said the very best they could do was $11,800 over 3 years for the blue SL.
You got it for $9,317, that's an amazing difference.

ocean
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Re: Nissan Leaf Leasing Information

Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:44 pm

madbrain wrote:
ocean wrote:madbrain, you are just too nice to them. I feel sorry about your story. Use my quote as your weapon on any dealers.


I really wonder, which dealer did the deal for you ?

I walked out on 3 dealers, so I can't have been too nice. None of them tried to get us to come back in when we did.

Stevens Creek said the very best they could do was $11,800 over 3 years for the blue SL.
You got it for $9,317, that's an amazing difference.

It does not really matter which dealer as long as they can give you the deal. If you have to know, PM me.

I checked the inventory in Bay Area http://www.choosenissan.com/san-francis ... .225587977
They sell really well in past week. One dealer used to have 23 on lot last week, now only have 4. It may be the reason they are are not willing to give good deal anymore.
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cwerdna
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Re: Nissan Leaf Leasing Information

Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:45 pm

ocean wrote:cwerdna, it will be nice to have honest dealership in US. However, there is no such thing in real world. Don't be idealistic. It is a "fight" between you and dealer. It never come easy. And most of fights are nasty.

FWIW, I bought an 06 Prius from Toyota Sunnyvale and 2 Nissans (an 02 Maxima and 04 350Z) from Nissan of Fife (in WA state, when I lived there), all new. I was happy w/the price and buying experience. I'd have no hesitation in going back there to car shop, depending on which state I'm in and whether they have the car I want.

I got a surprisingly good price when I sold my Z to Stadium Nissan in Seattle (which is now gone). It was higher than a used car dealer's offer or anyone else's offer (not many) that I was getting on Craigslist. Heck, it was higher than what I advertised for on CL.

Not all dealers are bad.

I've had some negative dealer experiences (some of which were echoed by others) at some other dealers. Honda of Kirkland, WA comes to mind.

'19 Bolt Premier
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Please don't PM me with Leaf questions. Just post in the topic that seems most appropriate.

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Re: Nissan Leaf Leasing Information

Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:51 pm

ocean wrote:They sell really well in past week. One dealer used to have 23 on lot last week, now only have 4. It may be the reason they are are not willing to give good deal anymore.


I see. Maybe I just need to wait until the gas prices come back down a little bit, maybe they will be less popular then.
Seems like I missed the boat. sigh.

ocean
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Re: Nissan Leaf Leasing Information

Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:53 pm

cwerdna wrote:
ocean wrote:cwerdna, it will be nice to have honest dealership in US. However, there is no such thing in real world. Don't be idealistic. It is a "fight" between you and dealer. It never come easy. And most of fights are nasty.

FWIW, I bought an 06 Prius from Toyota Sunnyvale and 2 Nissans (an 02 Maxima and 04 350Z) from Nissan of Fife (in WA state, when I lived there), all new. I was happy w/the price and buying experience. I'd have no hesitation in going back there to car shop, depending on which state I'm in and whether they have the car I want.

I got a surprisingly good price when I sold my Z to Stadium Nissan in Seattle (which is now gone). It was higher than a used car dealer's offer or anyone else's offer (not many) that I was getting on Craigslist. Heck, it was higher than what I advertised for on CL.

Not all dealers are bad.

I've had some negative dealer experiences (some of which were echoed by others) at some other dealers. Honda of Kirkland, WA comes to mind.

I would never just go to one favorite dealer to buy a car. Even they give me best deal before. Every time is different. Of course, I will have high expectation from previous favorite dealer. But I won't stop there, shopping around is still your golden rule.

cwerdna, I am a bit lost with your posts. Sunnyvale has good dealership but they offer me $3000 more than other dealers. So what is your point?

I cannot wait to see your numbers from Nissan Sunnyvale anyway.
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Re: Nissan Leaf Leasing Information

Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:01 pm

ocean wrote:I would never just go to one favorite dealer to buy a car. Even they give me best deal before. Every time is different. Of course, I will have high expectation from previous favorite dealer. But I won't stop there, shopping around is still your golden rule.

cwerdna, I am a bit lost with your posts. Sunnyvale has good dealership but they offer me $3000 more compare to other dealers. So what is your point?

I tend to agree. I would still shop around.

For some folks, they don't care as much about trying to get the absolute lowest price they can. Some are willing to support the business (in general, since they need to pay their bills and workers), find the location convenient, give repeat business for a previous good experience, like the staff, etc.

I've never bought a car from Sunnyvale Nissan. My parents bought an Altima Hybrid from them when they were Falore. They were the designated Costco dealer and the price we got (they knocked some off the Costco price) we were satisfied with, in the limited time we had. It was a replacement car for my mom since her's got totaled. We weren't going to stretch out the shopping over several weeks.

I liked and my mom likes their service department. I can't speak for their sales dept or their pricing though, as their ownership's changed.

Judging by madbrain's story + mine, it seems like both Premier Nissans (Fremont and San Jose) are to be avoided, at least for sales.
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ocean
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Re: Nissan Leaf Leasing Information

Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:09 pm

cwerdna wrote:
ocean wrote:I would never just go to one favorite dealer to buy a car. Even they give me best deal before. Every time is different. Of course, I will have high expectation from previous favorite dealer. But I won't stop there, shopping around is still your golden rule.

cwerdna, I am a bit lost with your posts. Sunnyvale has good dealership but they offer me $3000 more compare to other dealers. So what is your point?

I tend to agree. I would still shop around.

For some folks, they don't care as much about trying to get the absolute lowest price they can. Some are willing to support the business (in general, since they need to pay their bills and workers), find the location convenient, give repeat business for a previous good experience, like the staff, etc.

I've never bought a car from Sunnyvale Nissan. My parents bought an Altima Hybrid from them when they were Falore. They were the designated Costco dealer and the price we got (they knocked some off the Costco price) we were satisfied with, in the limited time we had. It was a replacement car for my mom since her's got totaled. We weren't going to stretch out the shopping over several weeks.

I liked and my mom likes their service department. I can't speak for their sales dept or their pricing though, as their ownership's changed.

Judging by madbrain's story + mine, it seems like both Premier Nissans are to be avoided, at least for sales.

I see. Your point is that you want us avoid both Premier Nissans. My point is that we don't care which dealership as long as they provide best price.

The funny thing is that I got car from one of them. I must be lucky! LOL!
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Re: Nissan Leaf Leasing Information

Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:12 pm

ocean wrote:I see. You want us avoid both Premier Nissans.

The funny thing is that I got car from one of them. I must be lucky! LOL!

Want? Maybe.... It's just a heads up more than anything else.

It just doesn't look like a coincidence to have a friend going back to high school, a MNLer, madbrain and myself having bad experiences w/them.

I think you got lucky.

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Please don't PM me with Leaf questions. Just post in the topic that seems most appropriate.

ocean
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Re: Nissan Leaf Leasing Information

Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:17 pm

cwerdna wrote:
ocean wrote:I see. You want us avoid both Premier Nissans.

The funny thing is that I got car from one of them. I must be lucky! LOL!

Want? Maybe.... It's just a heads up more than anything else.

It just doesn't look like a coincidence to have a friend going back to high school, a MNLer, madbrain and myself having bad experiences w/them.

Alright, alright.. The both Premier Nissans are such lousy dealers and we all should avoid them. In the mean time, Sunnyvale dealer gave me worst quote among all 4 dealers so I won't buy car from them. The only one dealer left on Steven Creek did not even have Leaf on their lot. So we should end of with nothing. Can we stop now?
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