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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:28 pm 
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Brother can you spare a Volt? We have sold ten this week, just delivered a White Diamond and tomorrow a Cyber Grey!! <snip>

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:10 pm 
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For those complaining about Volt's price, remember Cost != Value.

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Strategic Vision - Press Releases

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“The way you become a Value leader in this economy is to create an exceptional product that is affordable. Price alone will not determine value."


And some quotes directly about the Volt..

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.....Alexander Edwards, President of Strategic Vision. “The Volt has been the center of attention for a number of reasons, but the customers love their vehicles and the perceived value they receive. With its leading edge and innovative powertrain, they have purchased a part of what will be the future,” says Edwards. Volt not only had the highest Total Value score in the Mid-Size Car Segment, but had the highest score of any vehicle in Strategic Vision’s comprehensive study. Volt owners had a median annual income of $133,000, with 37% having post doctorate degrees—perhaps making them “early adopter aficionados’,” similar to those who first purchased Prius when it debuted over fifteen years ago and who were looking to make a statement.


As a Volt owner.. nothing here surprised me. I'm part of that 37%.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:17 pm 
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So, apparently they need to find ten times more folks like you in that case... :lol:

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As a Volt owner.. nothing here surprised me. I'm part of that 37%.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:54 am 
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GM is offering a replacement for the Volt's 120v charging cord (new part# 22914085). New one apparently has a heavier duty plug and larger wire for the 12" (inch) plug to EVSE to help with these issues. The EVSE to car cord is unchanged AFAIK. To be honest, GM should have made SPX over engineer this from the beginning. 9hrs @ 12amps/1400watts is a lot.

My neighbor has been using their 120v charger for several months without any issues. Their Volt is in the garage but they always seem to have their door open even on the hottest days so I bet it is pretty toasty throughout most of their charging.

We have heard of outlet issues as well where an old outlet and 12amp (vs 8amp setting) has caused the plug to get pretty warm. Older homes and such. Some of these have really cooled down when they installed a new outlet and made sure the wires were secure (resistive heat avoidance).

Also videos showing various testing on chargers/cords.
http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?12516-Safety-testing-of-the-Volt-charger-cord

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:01 am 
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Glad they finally realized that 16 gauge wire is not a great idea for a continuous 12 amps...

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GM is offering a replacement for the Volt's 120v charging cord (new part# 22914085). New one apparently has a heavier duty plug and larger wire for the 12" (inch) plug to EVSE to help with these issues.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:14 am 
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Saw a new Volt commercial running on Fox News Channel last night. It was a young lady raving about how little she spends on gas, didn't find it on youtube or I would have posted a link here. Anyway I was struck by the irony of an advertiser spending money to run spots on a media outlet that trashes the product. Is the trashing still going on? I would have expected a memo went out.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:16 pm 
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DrInnovation wrote:
As a Volt owner.. nothing here surprised me. I'm part of that 37%.
The Leaf scores very well also, just a little behind. Ditto for customer satisfaction. Both are far above average on these measures.

I find it hard to believe that 37% of Volt owners would have post-doctorate degrees. Not even sure what that is. Did they mean to say "post-graduate"?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:18 pm 
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Can the Chevy Volt help win the War on Terror?
Mar 26, 2012- 5:19 -Electric vehicle could help ease oil dependency

Hell has froze over video --> http://video.foxnews.com/v/152985694400 ... on-terror/

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For the past year or so, Fox News has been mercilessly bashing Chevrolet’s new electric vehicle, the Volt. They have derided it as an unsafe, unpopular, taxpayer-funded boondoggle, that was foisted on the auto industry and the public by President Obama as part of his socialist agenda.

This well-coordinate media assault encompassed conservative television, radio, newspapers, and Internet, and was an unprecedented effort aimed squarely at an American made product. They disparaged the company, the car, and the American workers who produced it. This vilification of the Volt has been most prominently featured on Fox News properties, where it has been the subject of withering criticism, despite the fact that it is also the North American Car of the Year and the European Car of the Year for 2011, the first time a car has won both honors.

This makes this morning’s segment on Fox & Friends, with media consultant Lee Spieckerman, all the more curious. Host Steve Doocy introduced his guest for a segment titled “Can the Chevy Volt Help Win the War on Terror?” by saying that, “It’s a great car that’s gotten a bad rap, all because of President Obama’s record, perhaps.”
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Spieckerman: You know, I’m a Texan. I’m a “drill baby drill” guy. And, unfortunately, I love Fox News and I feel like I’m kind of attacking my own family because I love O’Reilly, I love Neil Cavuto, I love Eric Bolling, but like a lot of my fellow conservatives, they seem to have kind of a fetish for demonizing the Volt. And they’re perpetuating this myth that the Volt was some kind of Obama administration green energy fantasy that was forced on General Motors during the bailout. It had been in development two years before Obama was elected. It had been championed by one of the greatest car executives in American history, Bob Lutz, who is a conservative and a climate change skeptic. So it’s a myth. You know the tax break for buying the Volt was implemented by the Bush administration. That was not something that occurred under the Obama administration. Text via: http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=6738

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:41 am 
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scottf200 wrote:


You don't suppose this is related to the ad placement I mentioned a couple posts back? The timing is suspicious. Maybe the way you get positive publicity on these media outlets is by advertising with them. Nissan and Chevy could probably pick up some ad spots cheap on RL these days, preferably some of those "embedded" product endorsements. All the sudden EVs (and PIH's) would be the greatest thing since sliced bread at the institute for advanced conservative studies.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:52 am 
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I'm sure the link to the Volt stat page has been posted before, but I cant recall these questions being answered.

http://www.voltstats.net/

This is a self-selected, but large sampling (close to 10%?) of the US volts on the road.

You see that average percentage of "EV miles" ranges from about 20%, to almost 100% with a fleet average of over 70%.

My question about these stats is, how are "EV miles" calculated? Is energy recovered by regenerative braking, considered "electric", or is just the energy received through the plug, used for these compilations?

So, for example, if regen is accounted for as "electric", and you did a great deal of ascent/descent in your driving, you might (but I'd doubt it) be able to get 20% of your miles as reported as "EV miles", even though you never plug your Volt in, and gas was the original source, of all the energy used.

The broader question, is whether Volt drivers have tried to estimate the additional kWh (or KWH + gas) required for ascent, (when driven in EV and/or ICEV mode) and the percentage of all energy recovered in descent (not just the regen energy recovered) as some have for the LEAF, to estimate range, and which sites/threads show these results?

Similar to the estimates, for LEAFs?

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