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jopeters41

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How much will my Electric Bill increase charging the Leaf? My cost for electricity is 9.2¢ per kWh¢. I plan on driving the car approx 1120 miles per month. We move into our new house next month. We had a 50 Amp, 240 Volt outlet installed in our garage. We plan on using evseupgrade.com for our charging unit.

How much will my Electric Bill increase charging the Leaf per month?

Thanks,

jopeters41
 
Hard to say exactly, as it depends on the conditions, however, if you average 4 miles/KW, that works out to:

1120 / 4 = 280KW

take into account about %85 efficient charging @ 240VAC, so multiply by 1.15, = 322KW consumed

at .092 per KW * 322KW, that adds up to $29.62 / month

of course you will probably average higher miles / KW, depending on your driving style, speed, use of heat/AC, weather conditions, elevation changes, traffic conditions, many variables affect the KWs consumped/mile.
 
If you're with PGE like me, good luck. I am on time-of-use 12 to 6 pm and even though I charge at night I'm getting charged the highest tier - 50 cents per kW about 40-50 kW. The 9 cent tier disappears really fast and you move on to 24 cents juice. My electric bill is about 80 bucks less than I would pay for gas doing 2500 miles per month. You have to pay the piper somehow.

But there is hope. DOW Powerhouse solar shingles are rolling out this fall/winter. I will save about 350-400 bucks a month paying no electricity whatsoever. I hate the look of solar panels. This is what I was waiting for about a decade now. I am shootiong for 6-7 kW system and it's going to go for about 16000 bucks. Will be paid for in 3 years, past that - free ride - literally.

Check it out.
 
jopeters41 said:
How much will my Electric Bill increase charging the Leaf? My cost for electricity is 9.2¢ per kWh¢.
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How much will my Electric Bill increase charging the Leaf per month?
What electric utility are on you on? What rate schedule are you on? What are their tiers, if any or is it always 9.2 cents per kWh, regardless of how much you use? (unlikely) What's your typical monthly usage now and what are some of your highest months?

Without this, the info we provide more than likely will be wrong.
 
I do a mix of freeway and secondary road travel. Not much in city traffic. I try to drive 'green', but often the temptation to show off a bit is just too much. I pay close to 11¢ a kWh (no tiered rates) and figure a bit less than 3¢ a mile for fuel. I figure the Toyota van I sold cost me almost 17¢ a mile for fuel. I pay a bit more for insurance, but the van was 10 years old, and I don't change oil.

I am a rather senior citizen, so I do not expect to recoup the extra cost of the EV before my demise or when they wont renew my license, but, darn it, I just wanted an EV. And I love it. :p

Bill
 
about $30 a month. any other questions? actually, need details here. where do you live? what kind of commute do you plan to do? etc.

i can say its doubtful you will get much more than 4 miles/kw from the wall @1120 miles that would be more than 280 Kw and you "could" get less than 3 miles /Kw from the wall but if you try you should be able to be in that range so that would be 373 Kw at 9.2 cents per that is 34.34 to 25.76.
 
ebill3 said:
I do a mix of freeway and secondary road travel. Not much in city traffic. I try to drive 'green', but often the temptation to show off a bit is just too much. I pay close to 11¢ a kWh (no tiered rates) and figure a bit less than 3¢ a mile for fuel. I figure the Toyota van I sold cost me almost 17¢ a mile for fuel. I pay a bit more for insurance, but the van was 10 years old, and I don't change oil.

I am a rather senior citizen, so I do not expect to recoup the extra cost of the EV before my demise or when they wont renew my license, but, darn it, I just wanted an EV. And I love it. :p

Bill
Damn, I wish we had a "like" button on these posts, I'd have clicked it over and over for this one! You go, Bill!
 
lonndoggie said:
Damn, I wish we had a "like" button on these posts, I'd have clicked it over and over for this one! You go, Bill!

A certain Prius forum, (okay, PriusChat), has a "thank this user for their post", and a "remove thanks" button as well. Perhaps wxyyz could get that going here, then you could "thank" a user for a post.
 
mitch672 said:
lonndoggie said:
Damn, I wish we had a "like" button on these posts, I'd have clicked it over and over for this one! You go, Bill!

A certain Prius forum, (okay, PriusChat), has a "thank this user for their post", and a "remove thanks" button as well. Perhaps wxyyz could get that going here, then you could "thank" a user for a post.
Yep, I've asked for this at http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4838" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

It's also sometimes helpful for finding useful posts. I've sometimes checked to see which ones I've thanked in order to fish for useful posts that I can't remember anymore.
 
+1

lonndoggie said:
ebill3 said:
I do a mix of freeway and secondary road travel. Not much in city traffic. I try to drive 'green', but often the temptation to show off a bit is just too much. I pay close to 11¢ a kWh (no tiered rates) and figure a bit less than 3¢ a mile for fuel. I figure the Toyota van I sold cost me almost 17¢ a mile for fuel. I pay a bit more for insurance, but the van was 10 years old, and I don't change oil.

I am a rather senior citizen, so I do not expect to recoup the extra cost of the EV before my demise or when they wont renew my license, but, darn it, I just wanted an EV. And I love it. :p

Bill
Damn, I wish we had a "like" button on these posts, I'd have clicked it over and over for this one! You go, Bill!
 
at around 9 cents a kW our bill went up by about $30 a month for around 1500 miles of driving... I figure it's about 1/10th of what we were paying per mile to run our previous ICE car.
 
ILETRIC said:
If you're with PGE like me, good luck. I am on time-of-use 12 to 6 pm and even though I charge at night I'm getting charged the highest tier - 50 cents per kW about 40-50 kW. The 9 cent tier disappears really fast and you move on to 24 cents juice. My electric bill is about 80 bucks less than I would pay for gas doing 2500 miles per month. You have to pay the piper somehow.

But there is hope. DOW Powerhouse solar shingles are rolling out this fall/winter. I will save about 350-400 bucks a month paying no electricity whatsoever. I hate the look of solar panels. This is what I was waiting for about a decade now. I am shootiong for 6-7 kW system and it's going to go for about 16000 bucks. Will be paid for in 3 years, past that - free ride - literally.

Check it out.

The DOW Powerhouse shingles sounds very interesting. That $16k you quoted, is that product, all the inverters and is fully installed and excl any govt incentives ?
 
cwerdna said:
mitch672 said:
lonndoggie said:
Damn, I wish we had a "like" button on these posts, I'd have clicked it over and over for this one! You go, Bill!

A certain Prius forum, (okay, PriusChat), has a "thank this user for their post", and a "remove thanks" button as well. Perhaps wxyyz could get that going here, then you could "thank" a user for a post.
Yep, I've asked for this at http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=4838" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

It's also sometimes helpful for finding useful posts. I've sometimes checked to see which ones I've thanked in order to fish for useful posts that I can't remember anymore.

not sure i would want a "thanks" option like PC. as you both know, that can become almost useless. i would rather prefer some sort of voting type of system. where people vote by assigning stars like a 1-5 thing. this allows more latitude when actually searching for information.

naturally i would also request the ability to search by keywords combined with ratings.

eg; "increasing range" + ">4 stars" and so on. this site has already gotten to the information saturation point where its a 1 to 10 info to noise ratio.

now that is not a bad thing. its simply a characteristic of online forums and general conversations of all kinds. people get and understand information in varying ways and that is often the reason that meandering topics exist and thrive. iow, we take the good with the bad if the good is good enough.

speeches and books provide targeted information, no other types of information do and as you know; those are also the least preferred methods to communicate amongst us mankind folk.
 
Two Leafs running about 1,000 miles each month for a total of 2,000 miles using Southern California Edison separate meter is $80. That is at a rate of $0.12 per KWH. I drive conservatively and the wife has way more fun with the car. She is a 3.5 and I am a 4.1.
 
DaveinOlyWA said:
.. not sure i would want a "thanks" option like PC. as you both know, that can become almost useless. i would rather prefer some sort of voting type of system. where people vote by assigning stars like a 1-5 thing. this allows more latitude when actually searching for information. ...
I don't care what options they add, so long as it keeps people from quoting whole posts just to add "+1". :roll:
 
ILETRIC said:
If you're with PGE like me, good luck. I am on time-of-use 12 to 6 pm and even though I charge at night I'm getting charged the highest tier - 50 cents per kW about 40-50 kW. The 9 cent tier disappears really fast and you move on to 24 cents juice. My electric bill is about 80 bucks less than I would pay for gas doing 2500 miles per month. You have to pay the piper somehow.

But there is hope. DOW Powerhouse solar shingles are rolling out this fall/winter. I will save about 350-400 bucks a month paying no electricity whatsoever. I hate the look of solar panels. This is what I was waiting for about a decade now. I am shootiong for 6-7 kW system and it's going to go for about 16000 bucks. Will be paid for in 3 years, past that - free ride - literally.

Check it out.

6-7 kw system from $16k? Wow. Sign me up. That's double the size for half the money of what I've been quoted on traditional systems,
 
I drive about the same distance each month. Had my leaf 3 months and I have 3700 miles on it. @10.1c/kWhr my blink says I use about $40-60/month. As far as my electric bill? Well it actually has been almost exactly the same as it was last year for the same month so probably cooler outside than last year. I know eventually I will see an increase. Maybe this month, my bill is to be generated anyday. I'll let you know if it jumped any.
 
Dealer in KS said it was about $2 for a 0-100% charge. Since I avg 25 miles/day in my escort that's a twice a week "fill up" or $8/month compared to $80/month for gas. All electricity is same price all day here so doesn't matter when to charge. I hope to update when I the actual bill. I imagine it will be hard to tell once the a/c kicks in on the house.
 
ksnogas2112 said:
Dealer in KS said it was about $2 for a 0-100% charge. Since I avg 25 miles/day in my escort that's a twice a week "fill up" or $8/month compared to $80/month for gas. All electricity is same price all day here so doesn't matter when to charge. I hope to update when I the actual bill. I imagine it will be hard to tell once the a/c kicks in on the house.
I trust you are enjoying the car as much as virtually everyone else on this board! However, your math is definitely on the optimistic side. You should probably assume about 75 miles from full to empty, so the equivalent[*] of a fill up every three days, or ten times a month. 10 x $2 = $20/month.

Still a nice comparison to $80/month for gas.

But I have to warn you, it is so much fun to drive this beauty that you may find yourself taking trips just for the joy of it. You could end up driving somewhat more than 25 miles/day! Of course I don't know what part of Kansas you are in. Western Kansas might not give the same driving pleasure as eastern Kansas.

Ray [Born a Jayhawker, but haven't been back for many years.]

* I certainly wouldn't recommend that you actually plan to run it from full to empty and charge once every three days. My rule is to charge to 80% unless I'm planning a long drive the next day, and to charge whenever the available charge gauge drops to 5 bars out of 12, which is about "half a tank".
 
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