DenverLeaf wrote:I just got my Leaf about a month ago. My Mom live in Virginia, about 1,400 miles. I normally take 3 days traveling straight through. That's about 24-26 hours of driving. Without consideration for heating battery, I'm adding about 15 hours to the trip - just for the hour and a half it takes to charge the car at least 10 times, or another couple of days. Smelling the roses is great, but on a trip like that, I'd rather be smelling the roses with my Mom.
Should I be rethinking taking my new Leaf on a trip like this? Like I said, I'm new to this, so maybe this is something that all EV owners resign to not doing.
My opinion? Fly, take Amtrak, etc. I would drive that distance only if there wasn't a better option even with an ICE or some future EV with 600+ mile range and 10 minute recharge time.
If you fly, you have 6 more days with your mom. When you consider wear and tear on your car, wear and tear on you, hotels, meals, flying might even be cheaper.
If you take Amtrak, you have two more days to with your mom and you don't need to deal with the hassles of flying, and some trips are faster/easier by train than flying.
Practical point, there are not even close to DCQC stations everyplace you will need them. Maybe in a few years, but not today.
+1. Sounds like you consider driving a chore and guessing you are only driving because you need the car. I would check your relationships (credit cards, etc.) for discounted car rental options instead.
It will cost more but what is the value of an extra 2 days with your mother? FYI; you could make the drive in 3 days even with the slower charging but they would be long driving days and first thing you will say is
"I can't drive that many hours" when you are really saying is that driving is tiring because I made it so by using a gas car and willing myself not to stop for anything but gas due to some BS internal clock challenge.
I have done A LOT of both. I used to drive from Southern CA to Olympia every year. 1200 miles and did it in less than 24 hours. Generally left around 7 PM (From Riverside 4X) and would arrive in time for dinner the next day and my family ate early...
For some ungodly reason, I thought that was the right thing to do. It would take me 2 days to recover. As I got older, I decided to split it into what was essentially 2 12 hour drives. That only took 1¼ days to recover from. But it was not a super safe thing for me. I was lucky in that nothing that required me to be top notch happened, etc.
Then I got an EV. I will say the 24 kwh LEAF's range was too short and its charging speed despite not being throttled by batt temps, was still too slow. If I could (which basically meant going South) I would only charge to 65-70% cause it was quicker and more efficient.
Then I got my 2018 and its slow charging issue. But I had enough range that the first half of the first day of a road trip was mostly personal stops. Coffee, bathroom, munchies, bathroom, water, bathroom then lunch!
But all those stops meant a LOT more time on the road so was I in danger? Well, I soon realized that in my LEAF despite being much older, I was at a very good alert level nearly all the time. I only got into trouble during those 45-90 min traffic delays and then I realized that because I was working, I was minimizing stops, etc.
I went down the OR coast and then on a random station check (for 2018 compatibility with Webasto) and on day 1, drove 14 hours which was made remarkable by the fact that I had been home one day from my 2 week stint on the East Coast and woke up a 3 AM after 5 hours sleep so my day that day started VERY early. But my trip that covered 400 miles did consist of a lot of charging stops (7) but also a lot of picture stops.
So when people say that the LEAF is not set up for long trips, I say you could do 400 miles with minimal issues. You won't make gasser time no doubt, but still won't be bad. But for your trip you are talking about? Yeah, fly it or spend a bit more time charging. I guess its all about whether stations are going to be close enough to allow short 20 min sessions, etc?