SageBrush wrote:cmwade77 wrote:SageBrush wrote:As a money question, I would just calculate pennies per mile.
$6000/40k miles works out to 15 cents a mile.
That is a pretty reasonable cap cost to run a car, so the real question is whether the car fulfills the owner's drive requirements.
The economics pencil out much nicer with PV
Yeah, but you should get at least 60,000 out of a new battery, after all that is the capacity warranty on them and if you purchase a new battery, it comes with a new warranty, so it really should be $0.10. That being said if you buy a new battery, then it drops below the threshold within the warranty you will get another battery, so you could end up getting near 120,000 miles on the $6,000 investment if you do it right.
The warranty is 60k miles/5yrs, whichever comes first.
It is a rare 24 kWh LEAF owner who reaches the mile limit before the time limit.
5 years * 8000m/yr = 40k miles
Take a look at the posts of people who have taken advantage of the warranty and keep in mind that Nissan has planned the warranty to just last long enough, meaning the battery capacity drops to below 9 bars just after warranty lapse. A few "lucky" owners get replacement batteries, the remainder post threads like this one or dump the car as a failed, expensive exercise.
I bought my car used, so I have no idea what the previous owner had done, but I got it with 9 bars and it dropped to 8 in December, quite literraly 3 months before the the warranty was up. I was willing to risk it because i got a good enough deak tgat even if i had to replace the batter at my expense, it would have been fine. But i lucked out and got a free replacement. I monitor my batterys health with Leafspy and when the battery was first installed, the SOH went up about .5% and it stabilized and hasn't moved in either direction since then, although I will admit that I don't understand how the SOH can be about 102%, I would have thought 100% would be the max.
And there are people who only drive 8,000 miles a year? I do a minimum of about 18,000 miles a year, so I wonder what difference that is going to make long term on the battery. Yes, I really drive my leaf at lease 1,500 per month.