kikngas
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I've been wondering if anyone has had any success at pooling resources to influence installation of public L2 and L3 charging. I-for-one would be willing to chip in a hundred bucks for specific locations, but I have no way to make that known to anyone. There is no way to see that there are others wanting the same site or general area. I might want to contribute $100 for a site 50 miles away from me, but only $20 for a site 25 miles away. And what about the locations that let you charge for free? Wouldn't it be nice if there were some single fund that they could suggest you make a $5 contribution to that would further the infrastructure?
I mean wouldn't it be neat if you could approach a mall operator and point to a website that shows there is a pool of money out there that is ready if they will host it? ...and that if the mall across the highway pulls the trigger first, then they will get the money... and the customers?
How would you think one would want to state their willingness to help fund a site? A series of concentric circles around their home, where there is a 10mi wide band every 50 miles? Someone like a Nissan dealer might want to say a 50mi radius of their dealership, "you take care of your city and I'll take care of mine" and we'll all get there. But drivers have different objectives.
What infrastructure around a charge location would help sell the idea or make it more viable? The current locations are very haphazard. There clearly was no national plan, nor even common sense applied to many of the current locations. I mean we are used to having gas stations right next to the exit on the interstate, but that's not necessarily where you'd actually want to use an L2 charge.
Does anyone know of any published details on utilization of various charge locations? Number of charges per month, number of kWh delivered, percent utilization during business hours. I complain about lack of infrastructure, yet what exists now is so rarely used that I've never not been able to pull up and charge.
I don't think we'll be stuck with level 2 several years from now, but I've been trying to figure out why national mall operators and movie theater chains aren't seeing the good fit with the current 3-4hr L2 charge times. Why is it that so many of the sites I see are Goodwill stores, college campuses, and auto dealerships? These are not places I tend to want to hang around for 3hrs with nowhere else to walk to.
What if a number of hotels got together and funded an installation at a nearby mall? Then add it to their shuttle route. That should be win-win-win. Cost reduced to 15% (or less) of trying to do something yourself. You can say all you like that none of your customers need this, but when people with an EV can't GET there, that could be part of WHY. Put solar panels over the hot parking lot and provide shade for all of the ICE drivers.
I mean wouldn't it be neat if you could approach a mall operator and point to a website that shows there is a pool of money out there that is ready if they will host it? ...and that if the mall across the highway pulls the trigger first, then they will get the money... and the customers?
How would you think one would want to state their willingness to help fund a site? A series of concentric circles around their home, where there is a 10mi wide band every 50 miles? Someone like a Nissan dealer might want to say a 50mi radius of their dealership, "you take care of your city and I'll take care of mine" and we'll all get there. But drivers have different objectives.
What infrastructure around a charge location would help sell the idea or make it more viable? The current locations are very haphazard. There clearly was no national plan, nor even common sense applied to many of the current locations. I mean we are used to having gas stations right next to the exit on the interstate, but that's not necessarily where you'd actually want to use an L2 charge.
Does anyone know of any published details on utilization of various charge locations? Number of charges per month, number of kWh delivered, percent utilization during business hours. I complain about lack of infrastructure, yet what exists now is so rarely used that I've never not been able to pull up and charge.
I don't think we'll be stuck with level 2 several years from now, but I've been trying to figure out why national mall operators and movie theater chains aren't seeing the good fit with the current 3-4hr L2 charge times. Why is it that so many of the sites I see are Goodwill stores, college campuses, and auto dealerships? These are not places I tend to want to hang around for 3hrs with nowhere else to walk to.
What if a number of hotels got together and funded an installation at a nearby mall? Then add it to their shuttle route. That should be win-win-win. Cost reduced to 15% (or less) of trying to do something yourself. You can say all you like that none of your customers need this, but when people with an EV can't GET there, that could be part of WHY. Put solar panels over the hot parking lot and provide shade for all of the ICE drivers.