TimeHorse
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cdub said:Same here. That guy has his info all wrong. Does he know how much government subsidies exit for oil companies that make the price of oil so artificially low?
Government Fiat (sp?) my bum. Oil companies get 10000x more tax loopholes and subsidies compared to EV consumers and companies.
He needs to drive that car - then he'll know exactly why people want it. It's from CONSUMER demand. The government rebates is just icing on the cake.
The thing about oil subsidies is that most Americans need a car. Even poor and lower middle-class Americans typically need a car. Most things are spread out here and certainly in this economy you take whatever job you can get stuck in a house you can't afford to sell and if that job is miles away, you need to take your car. It's not like we have Swiss-precision public transport in this country: setting up that infrastructure is expensive and typically ends up being subsidized again to make them accessible to the lower-class Americans that can't afford the true cost -- not to mention, as we have already fairly argued, that driving with gasoline is so much cheaper.
The problem is, you can't just eliminate those subsidies; you'll be hitting those who can least afford to suffer. Instead, as we all agree, the solution is to have incentives to wean Americans off of oil while still keeping oil artificially cheap. It means we have to spend more money in the short run, but if programs like the $7500 tax credit and consumers realizing how much eye-poppingly cheaper kWh are compared to gallons of petrol are able to effect enough Americans, we won't need as much oil, we can reduce our subsidies of oil and move those subsidies into renewable energy sources.
As for the Volt, the main reason I decided against the Volt is because a) they dropped the EV range from 60 mi to 40 mi and b) given my weekly commute, I'd end up filling up every 2 weeks instead of every 1 now, and that doesn't get me very far. I want a solution that has me visiting the pump on more a monthly interval, not every fortnight. But what I will say about the Volt that is very cool and revolutionary is what people keep forgetting to mention when they talk about it: it's a series hybrid. A series hybrid is more efficient than a parallel hybrid like the Prius, at least from an engineering point of view. This is a very wonderful design feature, not just that it's plug-in. So in the end, although the Volt is not for me, I do very much hope it succeeds and the closer we get to weaning off of osama-bin-lodoline, the better!