jadrake
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Re: Looking for a 2nd Hand Leaf

Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:04 pm

Looks like the majority of the cars are US imports. Interesting. So if they're from the US, what areas should I look for/avoid?

LeftieBiker
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Re: Looking for a 2nd Hand Leaf

Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:06 pm



That is an S, with no heat pump. Since it's a 2015 it MIGHT have a good enough battery for your needs, but it would suck more power for heat than an SV or SL in all but frigid temps.

One slip as I was writing. Avoid Arizona & Texas cars, Florida cars, Hawaii cars, and those from the hotter parts of California. Look for cars from US states with climates like yours. Be wary of dealer listings with lots of photos that don't show the dash charge bar / capacity bar display. You could actually get by with a good 11 bar Leaf if you want to spend less, but because of the way the bars "drop" you wouldn't know without LeafSpy if a 12 bar car is really "just over 11" a 10 bar was "just over 9" etc...
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Re: Looking for a 2nd Hand Leaf

Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:06 pm

I lucked out and purchased a higher mileage 2013 SV from Paramount in January of 2017 for $8000 US. All in, it was $10,550 but the prices have risen a bit since then. My car spent its entire life in WA.
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jadrake
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Re: Looking for a 2nd Hand Leaf

Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:09 pm

This one's a good price, but it's had a couple of rear-end accidents:

https://wwwb.autotrader.ca/a/nissan/leaf/surrey/british%20columbia/5_39844817_20130320121629495/?showcpo=ShowCpo&ncse=no&orup=4_15_75&pc=V3J%203P4&sprx=100

What should I look for when cars are listed as having accidents, or should I stay away completely?

LeftieBiker
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Re: Looking for a 2nd Hand Leaf

Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:12 pm

Another S. If you are going to consider the S model in Canada, drive a hard bargain, and assume a 10 or 11 bar range in Winter for a 12 bar car. Avoid more than cosmetic rear damage, and avoid repainted cars that may have had the batteries "cooked" in the body shop.
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jadrake
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Re: Looking for a 2nd Hand Leaf

Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:15 pm

It seems like the vast majority of LEAFs on Autotrader in my area are S models, imported from the US.

So if I HAVE to get an S, what should I look for/avoid?

jadrake
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Re: Looking for a 2nd Hand Leaf

Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:20 pm

Here's an SV model, 2013: https://wwwb.autotrader.ca/a/nissan/leaf/burnaby/british%20columbia/5_41162214_bs2004311104719/?showcpo=ShowCpo&ncse=no&orup=7_15_70&pc=V3J%203P4&sprx=100

So, is it better to get a 2013 SV/SL, or a 2015 S model? (for around the same price)


LeftieBiker
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Re: Looking for a 2nd Hand Leaf

Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:52 am

The 2014 SV would still have roughly a year (or less) left on the powertrain warranty, and has the Premium Package. I'd choose that over a '15 S. IIRC, though, in 2014 you could choose Premium Package, or Charge Package (DC fast charge and LED lights) but not both. In other years you could get either or both on the SV.

You look for the same things with the S - it is the same drivetrain with fewer comfort and convenience features than the SV.
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RonDawg
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Re: Looking for a 2nd Hand Leaf

Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:01 am

alozzy wrote:Don't know how accurate this is, but according to this listing that LEAF is originally from Fremont, California:

https://www.carsalehistory.com/cardetai ... 32455.html

So, it likely has higher pack degradation that a PNW LEAF would normally have.


A quick check of Google shows that Fremont's average high temperatures in the summer are 79 degrees. So I wouldn't worry about it too much. Now if this car came from the Central Valley, that's a different story.
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