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2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:16 am
by edatoakrun
Not much news on 2019 LEAF since the 2018 announcement:

2018 Nissan Leaf debuts: 150 miles for $30,875, 200-plus miles in 2019

In 2019, the Leaf range will gain a second battery option, a larger 60-kwh pack, according to Nissan executives during a technical briefing held in Japan in June.

That should give the second model a range of 200 miles or more, and it will also offer higher power, Nissan said, at a higher price. The company provided no further details...

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/11 ... es-in-2019

One of the largest unknowns is which manufacturer will supply the battery cells, with a lot of speculation in regard to LG.

I wouldn't say the report (google translation) below is definitive, but if LG (or another Korean manufacturer) had been chosen to provide cells for the 2019 LEAF's "60 kWh" pack, You might expect that to have been mentioned.

In 2018, more than 300 kilometers of electric cars are running ... Most Korean batteries are adopted

Of 14 new electric cars to be launched in Korea next year, 10 electric cars will adopt domestic batteries. Only Nissan and Tesla are missing. The domestic battery industry plans to supply batteries to the automobile industry starting next year with a distance of 300 km or more.

According to the electric car industry on the 20th, Hyundai Motor 'Kona EV' and Kia Motors' 'Niro EV', which will be released in the first half of next year, will employ LG Chem and SK Innovation batteries, respectively. These models are classified into long-range type (60kWh) and general type (40kWh) depending on the battery capacity. For the first time in the Korean market, Hyundai and Kia have subdivided the model so that consumers can select mileage performance (battery capacity). Jaguar Land Rover 'I-PACE', launched in Korea in the second half of next year, will be equipped with LG Chem's 90 kWh high-capacity battery. BMW's second generation i3 'New i3s' uses Samsung SDI 33kWh battery. On the other hand, only Tesla 'Model X' and 'Model 3' are equipped with Japanese Panasonic products...

http://www.etnews.com/20171120000253

So, maybe Nissan will use GSR (AESC) cells manufactured in Tennessee, for the high-density pack after all?

Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:41 pm
by Stanton
edatoakrun wrote: So, maybe Nissan will use GSR (AESC) cells manufactured in Tennessee, for the high-density pack after all?


More and more I'm thinking (and actually hoping) that's not the case. Some of my conclusions are based on this recent story http://pushevs.com/2017/09/08/lg-chem-will-introduce-ncm-811-battery-cells-evs-next-year/

Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:53 am
by armmynissanleaf
I think Nissan is currently working on it. I believe in 2019 they will definitely upgrade the Leaf to increase the Range. Anything below 200 miles per charge will not make the cut in a year or two with today's technologies.

Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:00 am
by TonyWilliams
Yes, Nissan said the 2019 LEAF e+ will have 225 miles or more.

Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:17 am
by edatoakrun
2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus, AKA Nissan LEAF Grand Touring?

Image at link.

Nissan to show 15 models at Tokyo Auto Salon 2018

NISMO road cars, 2016 GT500 MOTUL AUTECH GT-R among highlights


YOKOHAMA, Japan – Nissan will display 15 exciting models equipped with the latest custom and after-market parts at the Tokyo Auto Salon 2018, from Jan. 12-14.

The broad range of models showcases Nissan's world of vehicle customization. It will include grand touring concepts of the new Nissan LEAF, the NV350 Caravan and the X-Trail; the Nissan Fairlady Z Heritage Edition; and NISMO's high-performance road cars. Concept cars from the newly launched AUTECH sub-brand, featuring premium craftsmanship and sporty driving performance, will also be on display.

Another highlight will be the 2016 GT500 MOTUL AUTECH GT-R, the racing machine that earned its team and drivers the GT500 championship title in 2014 and 2015.

The Tokyo Auto Salon 2018 takes place at Makuhari Messe in Chiba Prefecture. Nissan's display is in cooperation with Autech Japan, Inc. and Nissan Motorsports International Co., Ltd.

The booth will host various events, including talk shows, and official Nissan and NISMO merchandise will be available.

Exhibits:
- Nissan LEAF Grand Touring Concept
- Nissan NV350 Caravan Grand Touring Concept
- Nissan X-Trail Grand Touring Concept
- Nissan Fairlady Z Heritage Edition
- Nissan Elgrand Special Edition
- Nissan Note e-POWER C-Gear
- Nissan Serena e-POWER AUTECH Concept
- Nissan Note e-POWER AUTECH Concept
- Nissan X-Trail AUTECH Concept
- Nissan Serena NISMO
- Nissan LEAF NISMO
- Nissan Note e-POWER NISMO (equipped with NISMO sports parts)
- Nissan GT-R NISMO
- Nissan X-Trail (NISMO Performance Package)
- MOTUL AUTECH GT-R (participated in the 2016 Super GT GT500)

https://newsroom.nissan-global.com/rele ... salon-2018

Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:51 am
by LKK
I too am curious about this 200 mile Leaf. The 2nd gen Leaf has terrific specs, a 200+ mile big brother would do a good job of covering the market.

What I'm wondering is How will Nissan stuff the 60 KWH battery into the leaf? My understanding is Nissan was able to retain the same physical form factor for the new Leaf as the gen 1 Leaf. How in the world will then get a 60 KWH battery into the same space? My guess is the chassis will have to be modified to do this. If so, I can't see an easy way to get the additional space. This issue is compounded it a TMS is also incorporated. In fact, if a TMS was used with the 60 KWH battery the modifications necessary might dictate that a whole new chassis be used.

Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:05 am
by WetEV
LKK wrote:How will Nissan stuff the 60 KWH battery into the leaf?


Energy density of Li ion cells has been increasing. More energy (kWh) in the same physical volume.

Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:19 pm
by LeftieBiker
There is also more room in the current Leaf than is occupied by batteries. There is actually room for a spare in the rear.

It will include grand touring concepts of the new Nissan LEAF,


Heh. Heeheeheee! How grand is touring when you have to stop every 130 miles to fully recharge?

Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:34 am
by SageBrush
LeftieBiker wrote:How grand is touring when you have to stop every 130 miles to fully recharge?

My wife sips coffee while she drives. Stops every two hours are a given.

Re: 2019 "60 kWh" Leaf e-Plus

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:16 pm
by rmay635703
What’s odd is that Nissan is marketing a 2018 leaf at all with deliveries starting next year they could have skipped directly to 2019

Who knows maybe 2018 will be a short year for the leaf.