Strongly agree. I can't see Nissan using more than two different battery packs across their EV lines (Leaf, LE, NV) in the next generation of vehicles. There simply won't be enough volume to support the R&D and distribution costs. Similarly, they'll tie pack size to trim level, so you won't be able to opt for, say, and S with the larger pack (even though I would love to have that option).GetOffYourGas wrote:Leaf S: 30kWh
Leaf SV/SL: 60kWh
The SV/SL battery will not be the same physical size as the Gen 1. We're just not going to see double the density. The 25% improvement in density we'll reportedly see in 2016 is what we'll get for Gen 2. Nissan will double the size of the "battery box" envelope for Leaf 2. The S will have the same battery as the 2016 SV/SL, but the cells will be rearranged to fit the shape of the new envelope. The SV/SL will simply have double the number of cells compared to the S.
All just my opinion/expectation of course.
I'm sure Gen2 will put a large emphasis on aerodynamics, motor efficiency, and component consolidation. For that reason, I think we'll see (EPA range):rmay635703 wrote:My guess is
The easiest way to get more range is a lower CDa, the leaf has loads of low hanging fruit.
In fact there is already a car on the road that goes 200 miles on 33kw, well known in fact so it isn't that complex to get range.
Now getting it packaged for Mericans to drive is another thing.
These are all good, but I think we can safely assume that THE big deal would be the ability to change the power-on sound to a recording of your choosing. Personally, I'd go with the Star Trek "going to warp power" clip, but that's just me.NeilBlanchard wrote:My hope for the Leaf 2 is that they lower the Cd from 0.29 to (at least) 0.24, which should increase the range by 25 miles or so - on the same battery pack capacity it has now. If they can lower it to ~0.21, then the range could be ~50 miles longer than the current Leaf on the same battery capacity.
This is essentially "free" improvement to the range.
I also hope they use a direct heating windshield defroster - one that is robust enough to melt ice and frost and freezing rain.
I really hope they have an option (at least) to have free wheel coasting by default, and that they add driver controlled regen - either continuously variable or 3-4 steps of regen.
I hope they improve the rear seat legroom.
And certainly, they should increase the battery capacity - I really hope they can manage 200-250 miles of range at 55MPH on flat ground with low winds and temperature ~60F.
2018 LEAF gen2DNAinaGoodWay wrote:S 24 kWh $26.9k
SV 36 kWh $30.9k
SL 48 kWh $34.9k
6.6 kW charger and QC standard on S and SV, 10 kW charger and QC on SL, optional on SV.
Nissan installs 100kW QCs near all Tesla locations.
Looks rather high for Gen 2.TonyWilliams wrote:At $400 per kWh, then battery cost are: