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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:36 pm

95 miles at 3.7 m/kwh (typical without heater)
52 miles at 2.0 m/kwh (typical with heater)
44 miles at 1.7 m/kwh (absolute worst case I have seen)

There, I finished your table for you. Yup, still not enough battery to get rid of the gasser, but at least it's a solid improvement!
~Brian

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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:48 pm

GetOffYourGas wrote:52 miles at 2.0 m/kwh (typical with heater)

Not typical for '13 and above ...
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:49 pm

dhanson865 wrote:
Nubo wrote:
pkulak wrote:Man, seeing that 123 miles makes me want it so bad. What is wrong with me? That's not even that far!


The siren-song of the GOM pulls hard! :lol:

EPA rating is 107 miles on a full charge, if I recall correctly.


forget EPA ratings. Leafspy showing 121 miles at 4.7 miles per kwh gives us 25.75 kWh usable. Multiply that by your favorite miles per and you get...


Except I was replying to pkulak who was excited by the GOM's "irrational exuberance" of 123 miles on 90% charge. I find the EPA rating is pretty reasonable in real-world use. YMMV of course! :)
no matter how you slice it that's a big improvement over a degraded 2012. :)

Absolutely a nice bump.
I noticed you're still working with polymers.

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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:40 pm

I am sure there are other threads to discuss your range experiences (good and bad).

This thread is for information about the 30 kWh battery collection from Leafs with the 30 kWh battery.

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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:20 am

Turbo3 wrote:I am sure there are other threads to discuss your range experiences (good and bad).

This thread is for information about the 30 kWh battery collection from Leafs with the 30 kWh battery.


Apologies. Like so many threads that go off topic, it starts out tangentially related to the OP.

Thanks for sharing all of this data!
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:38 am

worst case scenario when new:

2.9 miles/kWh in cold DFW weather and highway driving = 73 miles, or around 65 miles with some buffer (VLBW), That is when new. After two years and losing 16% capacity it will be 62 miles, or around 55 miles with some buffer.
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:57 am

As turbo rightly points out - let us get back on topic.
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:23 am

Assuming the module numbers relate to physical location -- what location in the car maps to those higher-voltage cell-pairs?
I noticed you're still working with polymers.

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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:35 am

Nubo wrote:Assuming the module numbers relate to physical location -- what location in the car maps to those higher-voltage cell-pairs?

Should be the stack under the driver (left front stack).

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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Fri Nov 13, 2015 1:38 pm

interesting that there is the same 1.5 kwh more or less that is unavailable for use. I get about 28.4 kwh available. Either way, I am guessing the numbers will change a bit as the car gets broken in. very cool!
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