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DNAinaGoodWay
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:01 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
DNAinaGoodWay wrote:Huh, only 88 to LBW at 3.9? Is the LBW range expanded?


sounds normal to me. From LBW to nada, i am getting between 15ish miles in my 2013


But for a 30 kWh pack? That would only be 103 miles for 28 kWhs usable.

It's close, but I'm guessing they tucked a few extra miles under LBW.
'12 SL last reading @ 2 yr, 22k, 260 GIDs, 62.35 Ahr

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Turbo3
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:12 am

One thing I need verified is at what Gid level the Low and Very Low Battery Warning messages appear for the 30 kWh battery.

Currently LeafSpy assumes the same Gid levels as the 24 kWh pack as the code has not been changed.

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The numbers are in. Nissan is using the same Gid level for the warning trigger as the 24 kWh pack. They are reserving the same amount of energy not a percentage which would have meant more energy. Expect to drive the same distance after a warning as you did with a 24 kWh pack.

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:57 am

DNAinaGoodWay wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:
DNAinaGoodWay wrote:Huh, only 88 to LBW at 3.9? Is the LBW range expanded?


sounds normal to me. From LBW to nada, i am getting between 15ish miles in my 2013


But for a 30 kWh pack? That would only be 103 miles for 28 kWhs usable.

It's close, but I'm guessing they tucked a few extra miles under LBW.


yep, could be but I could EASILY get 112 miles or 4 miles per kwh out of that. As it stands now, the math never works between the LEAF dash, LEAF Spy, etc. but I am still getting 4.1-4.2 miles per available kwh so that would mean as much as 117.6 miles

as far as "available" I can assure you its all there for use plus a little. more than a few times, I have pulled into the garage at "Zero" available...
2011 SL; 44,598 miles. 2013 S; 44,840 miles.2016 S30 deceased. 29,413 miles. 2018 S40; 11,987 miles, 485 GIDs, 37.6 kwh 110.89 Ahr , SOH 96.00, Hx 115.22
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:45 am

Model: 2016 SV
Built: 10/15
Delivered: 2/24/16
AHr=81.17
SOH=100%
Hx=97.03%
Odo=263 mi
3 QCs, 14 L1/L2
Cell variation: 12 mV
LeafSpy v0.37.79
ODB-II: BAFX Products 34t5

Drove 71 miles today with an efficiency of 3.8 mi/kWh (lower than my usual due to a bit of joyriding) and had 28% (dash) or 32.1% (LeafSpy) SoC remaining. LeafSpy tells me I could go another 26 miles @ 3.8 for a total of 97 miles. I have 8.1 kWh, 26.1 Ah, and 104 GIDs remaining.

Love the app!
2016 SV (30kWh)
@500 miles: AHr=79.88 SOH=100 Hx=95.3, GIDs=363
Was: 2011 Blue Ocean Leaf SL. Retired with 62k miles and 3 bars down.
My daily commute: 55 miles round trip, 92% freeway @ 55-60MPH, 5.0 miles/kWh average (per the dash)

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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:51 am

After charging to 100% (took 21.7kWh according to my TED from 29% SOC), my numbers are:

pack V: 394.84V
GIDs: 363 (101.7%)
SOC: 97.8
kWh remaining: 28.1
Miles@4.5: 117
GOM: 124
Ah: 79.34
2016 SV (30kWh)
@500 miles: AHr=79.88 SOH=100 Hx=95.3, GIDs=363
Was: 2011 Blue Ocean Leaf SL. Retired with 62k miles and 3 bars down.
My daily commute: 55 miles round trip, 92% freeway @ 55-60MPH, 5.0 miles/kWh average (per the dash)

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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:48 pm

On my commute today I recorded the kWh remaining value from Leaf Spy each time I lost a charge bar and I was surprised to see how linear it was:

Avail kWh after 100% charge: 28.1
lost 1st bar: 25.6 (-2.5)
lost 2nd bar: 23.3 (-2.3)
lost 3rd bar: 20.9 (-2.4)
lost 4th bar: 18.8 (-2.1)

Average is 2.3kWh per bar (and coincidentally, 2.3 x 12 = 27.9)

At 5 mi/kWh, it was:

bar 1: 12.5 mi
bar 2: 11.5 mi
bar 3: 12.0 mi
bar 4: 10.5 mi

or an average of 11.6 miles per bar.
2016 SV (30kWh)
@500 miles: AHr=79.88 SOH=100 Hx=95.3, GIDs=363
Was: 2011 Blue Ocean Leaf SL. Retired with 62k miles and 3 bars down.
My daily commute: 55 miles round trip, 92% freeway @ 55-60MPH, 5.0 miles/kWh average (per the dash)

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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Sat Mar 19, 2016 6:34 pm

Ok, I've got a 2016 SV. Purchased 12-15-15. At this point I've put 5000 miles on it. Leafspy reports 363 gids at full charge 100% health and 79.66AH capacity. Nearly all the charging is done via L2 at home. It's been fast charged 3 times mostly just to verify that it works. Gids at full charge wobbles a little. Occasionally it only charges to 361 or 358 gids. First couple times I saw that, I worried that I might be losing some batterty capacity already. Now it's back to full capacity. My daily commute is 55-65 mi round trip including errands. I've only run it down to below VLBW once and that was intentional just to find out the limits. I chickened out at 3% (1KWH). Low battery warning came on at 17% and VLBW at 7% Gids do track the percentage charge fairly accurately so I drive by the % charge gauge rather then worry about the gids or the charge bars. A typical day leaves me with about 45% charge at the end of the day. I'm averaging 3.8m/KWH but that is with a 2000' change in elevation each way. Downhill is a breeze but I have remember to have at least 25% charge ( 30-40% is more comfortable) when I go up the hill to go home. I would guess that 85-90 miles is the practical limit for me.
2016 SV, New battery at 45K mi.
Jamul, CA
San Diego East County

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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:04 pm

johnlocke wrote:Ok, I've got a 2016 SV.
...
Low battery warning came on at 17% and VLBW at 7%.

Is the above on the dash % SoC display or some Leaf Spy value?

I'd be curious the # of gids the above sound at.

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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Sun Mar 20, 2016 8:58 am

johnlocke wrote:Ok, I've got a 2016 SV. Purchased 12-15-15. At this point I've put 5000 miles on it. Leafspy reports 363 gids at full charge 100% health and 79.66AH capacity. Nearly all the charging is done via L2 at home. It's been fast charged 3 times mostly just to verify that it works. Gids at full charge wobbles a little. Occasionally it only charges to 361 or 358 gids. First couple times I saw that, I worried that I might be losing some batterty capacity already. Now it's back to full capacity. My daily commute is 55-65 mi round trip including errands. I've only run it down to below VLBW once and that was intentional just to find out the limits. I chickened out at 3% (1KWH). Low battery warning came on at 17% and VLBW at 7% Gids do track the percentage charge fairly accurately so I drive by the % charge gauge rather then worry about the gids or the charge bars. A typical day leaves me with about 45% charge at the end of the day. I'm averaging 3.8m/KWH but that is with a 2000' change in elevation each way. Downhill is a breeze but I have remember to have at least 25% charge ( 30-40% is more comfortable) when I go up the hill to go home. I would guess that 85-90 miles is the practical limit for me.


the variance is due to different levels of balancing and temperature. it is quite normal. My 2013 LEAF runs from 264 to 276
2011 SL; 44,598 miles. 2013 S; 44,840 miles.2016 S30 deceased. 29,413 miles. 2018 S40; 11,987 miles, 485 GIDs, 37.6 kwh 110.89 Ahr , SOH 96.00, Hx 115.22
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Re: 2016 30 kWh Battery data

Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:50 pm

I use the on dash display as it's easier for me to read. I have checked it against leafspy and it tracks very closely.
2016 SV, New battery at 45K mi.
Jamul, CA
San Diego East County

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