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Really inexpensive Level 2 chargers on aliexpress!?!

Mon Sep 04, 2017 2:21 pm

So I found this Level 2 charger made by duosida on aliexpress:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Duosida-Portable-EVSE-16A-SAE-J1772-Type-1-ev-plug-schuko-2-pin-plug-5M-cable/32814475587.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.2.bRixiw&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10152_5460015_10065_10151_10068_10130_5470015_10307_10137_10060_10155_5540015_10154_10056_10055_10054_10059_5490015_100031_10099_5380015_10103_10102_10052_10053_10142_10107_10050_10051_10324_10325_10326_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10178_10110_10111_10112_10113_10114_10312_10313_10314_10078_10079_10073,searchweb201603_19,ppcSwitch_4&btsid=f3dd89a5-2aee-4ffd-b757-93934eb60c7d&algo_expid=1585a59a-3fb0-4328-96d7-6a89ab614ea0-0&algo_pvid=1585a59a-3fb0-4328-96d7-6a89ab614ea0&transAbTest=ae803_2

1) This seems incredibly cheap to me, but the reviews seem ok. I can be patient with the shipping if it will save me $100 ;). The issue is that it appears to have a EU plug on it - a cee 7/7 plug I believe (not up to speed on overseas electrical standards). Can anyone confirm this?
2) From what I understand from EU wiring each post would be hot (one + and one -), and a ground clip on the side. I was thinking that I could cut this plug off and add a NEMA 6-20 plug in its place: two hots and a ground/neutral.

Before I pull the trigger on this I wanted to get other's thoughts. If I do pull the trigger I will return with updates...

Thanks!
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Re: Really inexpensive Level 2 chargers on aliexpress!?!

Mon Sep 04, 2017 4:43 pm

Lots of discussion on this already, under $150 including shipping out the door shipped straight from the manufacturer.

My opinion is inevitably the EV extension cord called an EVSE will eventually be driven down to commodity pricing which is under $100 .

Ah well wait and see

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Re: Really inexpensive Level 2 chargers on aliexpress!?!

Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:46 pm

I was about to write that, if you have an SV/SL or an S with the rapid charge package, you should not buy an EVSE that's limited to 16A. Then, I searched your old posts and noticed you have a 2014 S w/o the 6.6 kW charger. So, an inexpensive 220V/16A EVSE makes more sense.

To save people time, add your car details to your signature (i.e. look at my signature below for ideas) and add your location to your user profile too. Will save those that try to help you having to dig for that info ;)
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Re: Really inexpensive Level 2 chargers on aliexpress!?!

Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:05 pm

There is a new Level 2 EVSE on Amazon that is UL listed, puts out 16 amps at 240v, and has a dryer plug pigtail, and has a 20 foot cord to the car...

It is called the AmazingE...Made in the US, and comes with an 18 month warranty...

https://www.amazon.com/AmazingE-Portabl ... 9VSY5C31JR

Seems like a quality product, and prices are getting cheaper...

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Re: Really inexpensive Level 2 chargers on aliexpress!?!

Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:03 am

Forget about getting cheap chargers.... Those cheap ones are only 16 amp 240 volt. Your car is most likely to have the 6.6 charger, which can charge at 30 amps and charge ate TWICE the speed of the 16 amp charger.

You only buy one charger.... Don't be cheap and buy a charger that takes 6 hours to charge the car completely, when you can get one that charges the battery in only 3 hours!! That would be real dumb!!!

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Re: Really inexpensive Level 2 chargers on aliexpress!?!

Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:11 am

powersurge wrote:Forget about getting cheap chargers.... Those cheap ones are only 16 amp 240 volt. Your car is most likely to have the 6.6 charger, which can charge at 30 amps and charge ate TWICE the speed of the 16 amp charger.

You only buy one charger.... Don't be cheap and buy a charger that takes 6 hours to charge the car completely, when you can get one that charges the battery in only 3 hours!! That would be real dumb!!!

As alozzy said earlier, OP has a LEAF without QC.
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Re: Really inexpensive Level 2 chargers on aliexpress!?!

Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:01 am

I got one like it off eBay and it works great! Other plug styles and amps are also available on eBay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVSE-Level-2-charger-EV-Electric-Car-Charger-16-Amp-220-240-v-DUOSIDA-6-20-/252919048288?hash=item3ae3266860
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Re: Really inexpensive Level 2 chargers on aliexpress!?!

Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:02 am

aarond12 wrote:
powersurge wrote:Forget about getting cheap chargers.... Those cheap ones are only 16 amp 240 volt. Your car is most likely to have the 6.6 charger, which can charge at 30 amps and charge ate TWICE the speed of the 16 amp charger.

You only buy one charger.... Don't be cheap and buy a charger that takes 6 hours to charge the car completely, when you can get one that charges the battery in only 3 hours!! That would be real dumb!!!

As alozzy said earlier, OP has a LEAF without QC.


If the op wants to future proof the next faster EVSE is like $50 more

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Re: Really inexpensive Level 2 chargers on aliexpress!?!

Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:13 am

powersurge wrote:Forget about getting cheap chargers.... Those cheap ones are only 16 amp 240 volt. Your car is most likely to have the 6.6 charger, which can charge at 30 amps and charge ate TWICE the speed of the 16 amp charger.

You only buy one charger.... Don't be cheap and buy a charger that takes 6 hours to charge the car completely, when you can get one that charges the battery in only 3 hours!! That would be real dumb!!!


20A was the maximum circuit I could add, given our home's existing service wiring and load calculations. And so I've been using a 240V16A charger for nearly six years now. If I could have easily gone with 32A I probably would have. But I've got to say that it hasn't been a handicap in practical application.
I noticed you're still working with polymers.

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Re: Really inexpensive Level 2 chargers on aliexpress!?!

Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:17 am

Nubo wrote:
powersurge wrote:Forget about getting cheap chargers.... Those cheap ones are only 16 amp 240 volt. Your car is most likely to have the 6.6 charger, which can charge at 30 amps and charge ate TWICE the speed of the 16 amp charger.

You only buy one charger.... Don't be cheap and buy a charger that takes 6 hours to charge the car completely, when you can get one that charges the battery in only 3 hours!! That would be real dumb!!!


20A was the maximum circuit I could add, given our home's existing service wiring and load calculations. And so I've been using a 240V16A charger for nearly six years now. If I could have easily gone with 32A I probably would have. But I've got to say that it hasn't been a handicap in practical application.

I think 16A is perfectly fine for many folks' residential use and workplace charging. And perhaps counter-intuitively, as pack sizes increase home charging rate becomes less important imo. The car's "capability" is not an imperative. What determines your needed rate is how many miles of range you consume over a given time period, keeping in mind the battery's role as an accumulator. Lots of unnecessary compulsion to high amperage in the name of "future proofing", I think.

On-the-road charging is a different matter of course.
I noticed you're still working with polymers.

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