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 Post subject: Accept/Decline or ??
PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 9:21 pm 
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Come on now. Each time we use the car we have to "accept" or "decline" the agreement on the Nav system? What's up with that? I know we are a litigious country, but come on. Not only is it annoying, but we find it somewhat insulting and it would seem an easy fix.

Does anyone know if we accept or decline the agreement when a major function button is depressed on that screen thereby bypassing the agreement?


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 Post subject: Re: Accept/Decline or ??
PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:45 pm 
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Someone was talking about offering a software update for the LEAF a few weeks ago that would do a few things including this. I couldn't find the thread. Maybe he will chime in to let you know what's the status on this.

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 Post subject: Re: Accept/Decline or ??
PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:11 pm 
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I had a loaner Hyundai Sonata with a Nav. system. It did the same thing. A button had to be pushed. It doesn't really bother me.

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 Post subject: Re: Accept/Decline or ??
PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:33 pm 
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This warning has nothing to do with Nav, though it appears on the center ("Nav") screen.

The "warning" is for permission to send YOUR data to Nissan's Carwings.

If you "bypass" the screen, I believe it comes back if/when you try to access/use any Carwings functions, like download new charging station locations.

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 Post subject: Re: Accept/Decline or ??
PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:54 pm 
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It's a stupid annoyance, brought to you by the same rabid lawyers who brought you click-through software license agreements, email footers ("if you are not the intended recipient"), and warning labels on hair dryers not to use them in the bath.

But to me it's not quite as annoying as the press-to-agree screen on my Prius NAV screen, where you agree not to get so engrossed playing with the NAV that you forget to look where you're driving. It too has to be pressed every time you start the car, if you want to see a map. But the LEAF at least presents its annoyance screen right at the start. In the Prius it appears when you first select map or destination, so it's three clicks: map, agree, and map again.

Yes, I wish Nissan would fix it. But not as much as I wish someone would finally build some public L3, L2, and L1 charging stations. Nor as much as I wish the battery had 50-100% more capacity. Nor even as much as I wish the glovebox had 50-100% more capacity.


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 Post subject: Re: Accept/Decline or ??
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:28 am 
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They could have made it a drunk test, varying the text each time to tell you an 8-digit code number to enter, then requiring your RFID's pin number, and finally your own ID, Driver's License number, and Social Security number ... before the car will even move! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Accept/Decline or ??
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:48 am 
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Better know as our ludicrous U.S. tort system. No where else in the world is there such legal stupidity! Blame the legislatures who crafted it...

walterbays wrote:
It's a stupid annoyance, brought to you by the same rabid lawyers who brought you click-through software license agreements, email footers ("if you are not the intended recipient"), and warning labels on hair dryers not to use them in the bath.

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 Post subject: Re: Accept/Decline or ??
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:10 am 
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garygid wrote:
This warning has nothing to do with Nav, though it appears on the center ("Nav") screen.

The "warning" is for permission to send YOUR data to Nissan's Carwings.

If you "bypass" the screen, I believe it comes back if/when you try to access/use any Carwings functions, like download new charging station locations.



The fact that so many people still think this is associated with the nav system just goes to prove that these notices are worthless. People aren't reading them anyway, so what's the point? :)

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 Post subject: Re: Accept/Decline or ??
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:44 am 
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blorg wrote:
The fact that so many people still think this is associated with the nav system just goes to prove that these notices are worthless. People aren't reading them anyway, so what's the point? :)


So, So True! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Accept/Decline or ??
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:44 am 
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[quote="garygid"]This warning has nothing to do with Nav, though it appears on the center ("Nav") screen.

The "warning" is for permission to send YOUR data to Nissan's Carwings.

quote]

In essence a blank check to send what ever data NIssan may desire from your car... check this out
for more details.

http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Nissan-LEAF-cars-leak-speed-position-destination-to-RSS-feeds-1259465.html

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