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Re: Swop Reverse and Drive Positions on the Stick Shift

Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:32 pm

I agree. Just ditch the shifter and go with something else.
I've had several instances where I inadvertently shift into reverse intending to go forward and I don't like it.
There must be something better.

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Re: Swop Reverse and Drive Positions on the Stick Shift

Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:53 pm

JustBobF wrote:When I first got into the Leaf my first reaction was to push the shift lever to the right and forward to go forward. Pushing it back to go forward seemed counter-intuitive.

A friend had the same reaction.

I wonder how may others feel the same way?

(There are really only two positions in the leaf: forward and backward, unlike older cars that have many positions on that lever. So why not make forward and backward make sense?)


feels pretty natural to me. if flooring it your momentum pulls you in the direction you want to shift. granted I am probably the only one who looks at it this way but there was no learning curve for me in the Prius (which has the same shifting pattern) so there was none in the LEAF.
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Re: Swop Reverse and Drive Positions on the Stick Shift

Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:51 pm

When I drive my ICE, first gear is left and up, reverse is push down on the shifter and up. Some cars have reverse as over to the right and down, so I can understand where the OP is coming from in terms of confusion. Not everyone that has a Leaf has an automatic ;). Although your typical Toyota / Lexus automatic shifter is some weird gated pattern that goes left, down, right, down and kind of annoying.

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Re: Swop Reverse and Drive Positions on the Stick Shift

Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:02 pm

If you hand is on the shifter and you accelerate fast in say reverse the force of you body should follow the direction of the shifter as a safety issue so it makes sense as it is.

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Re: Swop Reverse and Drive Positions on the Stick Shift

Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:53 pm

your hand should not be on the shifter if your accelerating anyways.
I'd guess that the solution would be to set it up so that it can be turned either way to accommodate Individual preferences.
Now there's a good job for Nissan engineers to undertake.

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Re: Swop Reverse and Drive Positions on the Stick Shift

Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:45 am

Zurc wrote:your hand should not be on the shifter if your accelerating anyways.
I'd guess that the solution would be to set it up so that it can be turned either way to accommodate Individual preferences.
Now there's a good job for Nissan engineers to undertake.

zurc. :-)


that would be a tremendously bad idea.
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Re: Swop Reverse and Drive Positions on the Stick Shift

Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:11 am

SET IT….

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AND FORGET IT!
I noticed you're still working with polymers.

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Re: Swop Reverse and Drive Positions on the Stick Shift

Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:06 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:that would be a tremendously bad idea.
Agree. It would be very confusing for drivers used to the standard LEAF (and Prius) pattern to have it set in a strange way.

My ICE cars have had a variety of shift patterns for reverse. It wasn't that hard to learn the quirks of each car.

Of the various complaints about the LEAF, this one strikes me as one of the least substantive.
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Re: Swop Reverse and Drive Positions on the Stick Shift

Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:52 pm

The only way to say this is quite blunt. Sorry. The main thing about being a driver is learning how to operate the machinery you are controlling. The way the shifter is configured was settled long ago, and it is going to continue to be built that way. You just need to get used to it. We could also debate on why you turn the steering wheel counterclockwise for left, and clockwise for right..
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Re: Swop Reverse and Drive Positions on the Stick Shift

Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:46 pm

Completely disagree. While I personally do not care which way I have to move the stick. It is a machine. It is my property. It will operate how I decree within the confines of reality and reason. Period.

It would not be tok hard me thinks to revers the motion. It is pure electronic I would guess so simply dremelibg it out and spinning it 180 should not be overly difficult
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