kubel
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Re: Prejudice and Range: A Michiganders dilema

Wed Mar 14, 2012 4:49 pm

TonyWilliams wrote:
kubel wrote:I got approved to plug in to 120V! :)

It's a step forward.


Awesome. Now, start making your backup plans in case this deal falls through, or is broken, etc.


Unfortunately, the area where I have to charge is a decommissioned receiving bay in our warehouse. There's just enough of a gap between the bay door and the frame to slip an EVSE cable through. I still haven't tested the outlet yet to make sure it's live. I probably should go do that right now. :)

::edit:: Tested ok. Also got clarification from senior management that my permission to plug in is on a 'trial basis', which I interpret that to mean I'm a guinea pig and when other gas drivers start complaining ("if the company pays for his electricity, it should pay for my gas too, it's only fair"), they will pull the plug.
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6/14: 56.70AHr, 86%, 30,000 miles
7/14: 56.36AHr, 85%, 30,800 miles
8/14: 55.59AHr, 84%, 31,400 miles
9/14: 55.43AHr, 84%, 32,300 miles
10/14: 54.83AHr, 83%, 33,200 miles
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Tagbert
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Re: Prejudice and Range: A Michiganders dilema

Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:57 am

You might want to look into alternate chargers near work. There might be some within easy walking distance or at least places you could "top off" if you find yourself running a little low.

Try searching near your work location
http://www.recargo.com/search
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Re: Prejudice and Range: A Michiganders dilema

Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:11 pm

kubel wrote:
TonyWilliams wrote:
kubel wrote:I got approved to plug in to 120V! :)

It's a step forward.


Awesome. Now, start making your backup plans in case this deal falls through, or is broken, etc.


Unfortunately, the area where I have to charge is a decommissioned receiving bay in our warehouse. There's just enough of a gap between the bay door and the frame to slip an EVSE cable through. I still haven't tested the outlet yet to make sure it's live. I probably should go do that right now. :)

::edit:: Tested ok. Also got clarification from senior management that my permission to plug in is on a 'trial basis', which I interpret that to mean I'm a guinea pig and when other gas drivers start complaining ("if the company pays for his electricity, it should pay for my gas too, it's only fair"), they will pull the plug.


Offer to pay for the power. Actually, don't offer; insist. You don't want it for free.

Deduct the value of how much juice you use. 1.5 kWh multiplies by the cost of power (let's say 12 cents) multiplied by the hours charged.

I come up with $1.44 per day, which is 1.5*0.12*8.
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Re: Prejudice and Range: A Michiganders dilema

Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:57 pm

I don't think 120V can serve up 1.5kWh. You overcharge the boy...
Get that Leaf ordered. Oh wait, there is this issue with the carwings ok button...

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Re: Prejudice and Range: A Michiganders dilema

Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:09 pm

Leon wrote:I don't think 120V can serve up 1.5kWh. You overcharge the boy


120v x 12a = 1.44kW
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JESLAtm, the premium 40 amp J1772 portable charging solution
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JDaptortm, the J1772 power outlet

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Re: Prejudice and Range: A Michiganders dilema

Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:13 pm

or make a weekly donation to the coffee fund.. and post a note by the plug saying so when you use it, along with your cell number if anyone wants a test drive.

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Re: Prejudice and Range: A Michiganders dilema

Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:38 pm

The plug probably hasn't been used once in the last 5 years, and there are a total of 6 of them near that dock. We'll see how that goes.

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As far as nearby chargers- it's Michigan, so there aren't many. When I started seriously considering the LEAF, I signed up for a ChargePoint account and got a card and went scouting for charging stations just to see which ones were practical to use.

There's one at Schoolcraft College next to their libarary, probably the best spot to stop for an hour or so if I need to. Public and free.
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Another one is at Schoolcraft College's north lot (where I met a Volt owner who happened to be walking to his car). It's about a 10-15 minute walk to nearby restaurants, which isn't ideal, but if I need a few miles and was also hungry, it's a possibility. Public and free.
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And then one at an apartment complex. EV parking only? Ok, let me park this big gas guzzler there... This one has nearby restaurants as well. There are two parking spots and 1 charging station, so I would hate to make the resident there have to walk back out to their car to plug in after I got done mooching off them. But it was marked as public and free.
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I tried charging my gas car at each one of these but the plug wouldn't fit. Where do I find "unleaded" electricity at around here? :shock: j/k

There's also one about a half mile from my work but it's behind a gated lot with a NO TRESPASSING sign. Kind of lame that it's marked free and public but it's gated off. I'll have to contact them and see if it's OK to charge if I need to. They have 3 and only 1 is ever in use.
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Cayenne Red
6/14: 56.70AHr, 86%, 30,000 miles
7/14: 56.36AHr, 85%, 30,800 miles
8/14: 55.59AHr, 84%, 31,400 miles
9/14: 55.43AHr, 84%, 32,300 miles
10/14: 54.83AHr, 83%, 33,200 miles
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kubel
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Re: Prejudice and Range: A Michiganders dilema

Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:06 am

I just contacted my dealer and asked them if it's possible for them to loan me their demo from Thursday through Saturday so I can test my route. We'll see. I wish it was still cold out so I could do a worst-case-scenario test.
2012 Nissan LEAF SV
Cayenne Red
6/14: 56.70AHr, 86%, 30,000 miles
7/14: 56.36AHr, 85%, 30,800 miles
8/14: 55.59AHr, 84%, 31,400 miles
9/14: 55.43AHr, 84%, 32,300 miles
10/14: 54.83AHr, 83%, 33,200 miles
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Re: Prejudice and Range: A Michiganders dilema

Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:59 pm

kubel wrote:I wish it was still cold out so I could do a worst-case-scenario test.
Worst case you'd take another car. You should find slightly warmer temperatures more enlightening.

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Re: Prejudice and Range: A Michiganders dilema

Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:48 am

HI KUbel - been reading your MIchigan experience with interest.

I'm in Ann Arbor - just started my Leaf process -
where did you get yours - the closest one to drive
for me was Toledo!!!

WIll be asking employer to let me "plug-in".

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